Difference in Eagles front office to the Packers front office
October 25, 2023
Difference in Eagles front office to the Packers front office
18 comments
Eagles: Draft good players
Packers: Do not that
Mark Murphy and gute ruined the back half of Aaron’s career. 3 years of 13-3. Not one all in trade. I mean it was so painfully obvious we were 1-2 players away. Now that Aaron is gone we see how many holes he covered up for.
The Eagles draft well, hire good coaches that fit their style, make moves when they need to in their title windows, and develop players.
We draft pure RAS scores, hire coaches off fads, dont make trades or sign big FAs when we need them, keep failures of coaches and players long after thats been established, and all our players are busts who completely fall off or never get better than what they are a year or 2 in
I wonder why one is the best team in the league while the other is the worst?
I mean this seems pretty obvious
The situations aren’t exactly the same, but the overall point has some validity to it.
The Packers place a little too much emphasis on late round picks and I don’t think they would have ever traded two picks for one player like Philly did.
It’s just not the way they operate. They take a bunch of swings in the draft and hope to hit on guys at a rate necessary to keep the roster competitive for a long time.
Unfortunately the drafting has been pretty mediocre for a while now.
As someone who lives outside of Philly and is subjected to so much Eagles coverage, it has been interesting to watch how they build the team. They absolutely have had some draft misses, along with draft hits, but what strikes me is they’re always ready to keep making moves. From trades like Slay, Brown, CJC, Swift, and now Byard, when they’re all in, they’re all in. I also like how they can be a little cutthroat and ship off players (like Wentz and Reagor) that they realize they’re better off without. Same with coaches. Definitely a very aggressive front office.
Wasn’t the eagle fan base calling for Howie to be fired a year or two after they won the Super Bowl?
one values talent, one values profit
I blame the Packers owners. Step it up you guys.
It seems to me the goal of the Packers front office is to make sure the team just stays competitive year after year long term, and not necessarily chasing the win now mentally and risking the future. As long as the packers stay relevant people will come and keep spending money in the all important Titletown (packers financial) district, all in a effort to make sure the team stays out of financial difficulty. Just my opinion of course
This has been the case with the Packers FO for as long as I can remember. They’re not aggressive at all and have always seemed content with just being a good team.
Hopefully our current “predicament” forces change but I doubt it. I don’t see it changing as long as Murphy runs things.
It’s a lot easier to draft well when you pick in the top ten multiple years, which the packers have never done since 2009.
Ok…. do you guys realize it hasn’t been a full year. If you can’t have patience then you are out of touch. You have a ton of young players with potential. I’m a lions fan and your self depreciation is vomit worthy. You are like rich people who don’t know what the price of a gallon of milk is. Get a grip.
Bottom line is, the Packers do not have a sole owner to make happy and do right by. There is no owner pushing his front office or putting any kind of pressure on anyone. Green Bay has been in a state of “Well, at least we made the playoffs” mode for the last 20 or so years. A state of “2 back to back HOF quarterbacks, just enjoy them play” with no real urge to *WIN NOW*. The owners are the fans, and unless the fans boycott any kind of shitiness in droves, like say, not showing up to games, nothing will be done. Packers fans wait years for games. That isn’t going to happen any damn time soon.
This FO suffers from sunk cost fallacy. They do that with coaches and players. They put too much investment on their draft picks. Which they should to an extent. But they fail to identify when a prospect just isn’t working out. IE: Newman, Amari Rodgers.
Look at the Eagles, they quickly turned their organization by identifying their picks were just not going to pan out. Instead of trying fit a square peg into a circle, they moved one quickly.
Heck. Look at the 49ers. They thought they were drafting their future qb and gave plenty. They identified quickly he just wasn’t it and made the moves to salvage their decision.
Packers need to be more aggressive and light up a fire on these guys who know they won’t get cut just because they got drafted since it’s just draft and develop. Expect results now.
Yeah this isn’t complicated, Gute lives and dies by Love. If Love is a top 5/10 QB and takes a good deal, I will call it a wash. Anything else is failure. Not picking a WR in 2020 meant:
– The only WR in the team was Tae. If tae left for any reason, the team was screwed.
– This also meant Tae had all the leverage against the packers.
– You didn’t maximize Aaron’s chances in 2020 or 2021
– Any WR picked later would be expected to be good by 2022, if Tae wanted to leave. And he did. And they weren’t. You have to spin the WR roulette to make sure the blood is fresh.
Note that not having a WR from 2020 means that Jordan doesn’t have any veteran WR to throw to.
I wonder sometimes how much of a factor players not wanting to come to Green Bay (the city, not the team) might be. I am remembering a few times Murphy or Gute have implied that they were in the mix for some free agent signing but it takes two sides to make a deal and it can be hard to convince a free agent to come to Wisconsin instead of, say, Florida.
Packers brass was all in when they gave Rodgers a huge contract. Thus, the reason for 40 million dead cap hit. They had a Super Bowl caliber team when they lost to the Bucs and 49ers! Take away the bone headed special teams and Rodgers’ love for staring down Adam’s on every pass play they could have made it to the big game.
18 comments
Eagles: Draft good players
Packers: Do not that
Mark Murphy and gute ruined the back half of Aaron’s career. 3 years of 13-3. Not one all in trade. I mean it was so painfully obvious we were 1-2 players away. Now that Aaron is gone we see how many holes he covered up for.
The Eagles draft well, hire good coaches that fit their style, make moves when they need to in their title windows, and develop players.
We draft pure RAS scores, hire coaches off fads, dont make trades or sign big FAs when we need them, keep failures of coaches and players long after thats been established, and all our players are busts who completely fall off or never get better than what they are a year or 2 in
I wonder why one is the best team in the league while the other is the worst?
I mean this seems pretty obvious
The situations aren’t exactly the same, but the overall point has some validity to it.
The Packers place a little too much emphasis on late round picks and I don’t think they would have ever traded two picks for one player like Philly did.
It’s just not the way they operate. They take a bunch of swings in the draft and hope to hit on guys at a rate necessary to keep the roster competitive for a long time.
Unfortunately the drafting has been pretty mediocre for a while now.
As someone who lives outside of Philly and is subjected to so much Eagles coverage, it has been interesting to watch how they build the team. They absolutely have had some draft misses, along with draft hits, but what strikes me is they’re always ready to keep making moves. From trades like Slay, Brown, CJC, Swift, and now Byard, when they’re all in, they’re all in. I also like how they can be a little cutthroat and ship off players (like Wentz and Reagor) that they realize they’re better off without. Same with coaches. Definitely a very aggressive front office.
Wasn’t the eagle fan base calling for Howie to be fired a year or two after they won the Super Bowl?
one values talent, one values profit
I blame the Packers owners. Step it up you guys.
It seems to me the goal of the Packers front office is to make sure the team just stays competitive year after year long term, and not necessarily chasing the win now mentally and risking the future. As long as the packers stay relevant people will come and keep spending money in the all important Titletown (packers financial) district, all in a effort to make sure the team stays out of financial difficulty. Just my opinion of course
This has been the case with the Packers FO for as long as I can remember. They’re not aggressive at all and have always seemed content with just being a good team.
Hopefully our current “predicament” forces change but I doubt it. I don’t see it changing as long as Murphy runs things.
It’s a lot easier to draft well when you pick in the top ten multiple years, which the packers have never done since 2009.
Ok…. do you guys realize it hasn’t been a full year. If you can’t have patience then you are out of touch. You have a ton of young players with potential. I’m a lions fan and your self depreciation is vomit worthy. You are like rich people who don’t know what the price of a gallon of milk is. Get a grip.
Bottom line is, the Packers do not have a sole owner to make happy and do right by. There is no owner pushing his front office or putting any kind of pressure on anyone. Green Bay has been in a state of “Well, at least we made the playoffs” mode for the last 20 or so years. A state of “2 back to back HOF quarterbacks, just enjoy them play” with no real urge to *WIN NOW*. The owners are the fans, and unless the fans boycott any kind of shitiness in droves, like say, not showing up to games, nothing will be done. Packers fans wait years for games. That isn’t going to happen any damn time soon.
This FO suffers from sunk cost fallacy. They do that with coaches and players. They put too much investment on their draft picks. Which they should to an extent. But they fail to identify when a prospect just isn’t working out. IE: Newman, Amari Rodgers.
Look at the Eagles, they quickly turned their organization by identifying their picks were just not going to pan out. Instead of trying fit a square peg into a circle, they moved one quickly.
Heck. Look at the 49ers. They thought they were drafting their future qb and gave plenty. They identified quickly he just wasn’t it and made the moves to salvage their decision.
Packers need to be more aggressive and light up a fire on these guys who know they won’t get cut just because they got drafted since it’s just draft and develop. Expect results now.
Yeah this isn’t complicated, Gute lives and dies by Love. If Love is a top 5/10 QB and takes a good deal, I will call it a wash. Anything else is failure. Not picking a WR in 2020 meant:
– The only WR in the team was Tae. If tae left for any reason, the team was screwed.
– This also meant Tae had all the leverage against the packers.
– You didn’t maximize Aaron’s chances in 2020 or 2021
– Any WR picked later would be expected to be good by 2022, if Tae wanted to leave. And he did. And they weren’t. You have to spin the WR roulette to make sure the blood is fresh.
Note that not having a WR from 2020 means that Jordan doesn’t have any veteran WR to throw to.
I wonder sometimes how much of a factor players not wanting to come to Green Bay (the city, not the team) might be. I am remembering a few times Murphy or Gute have implied that they were in the mix for some free agent signing but it takes two sides to make a deal and it can be hard to convince a free agent to come to Wisconsin instead of, say, Florida.
Packers brass was all in when they gave Rodgers a huge contract. Thus, the reason for 40 million dead cap hit. They had a Super Bowl caliber team when they lost to the Bucs and 49ers! Take away the bone headed special teams and Rodgers’ love for staring down Adam’s on every pass play they could have made it to the big game.