Also applies to the sub

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1. Oline is a bigger issue than QB, after seeing DeVito I trust Daboll to turn anyone into a Josh Allen

2. Giants have invested huge amounts in oline with almost nothing to show for it.

   Let’s try investing in QB.

3. The way this fanbase talks about QB you would think it’s the least important position on offense. We’ve seen countless examples of shitty teams immediately turning it around the second they got a franchise QB and our fans will still argue against it because the PREVIOUS regime “ruined” a QB who wasn’t that good in the first place

4. I’m sick of the O line argument, we need a QB plain and simple. You can manufacturer points, hell the Bengals got to a Superbowl with a shitty line. The only common denominator since Eli has been Daniel Jones. He’s decent but he’s not the answer, he’s a slightly better Marcus Mariota. Bring in the kid from LSU and try again to change your franchise. You can make it a fake competition for next season while you’re stuck with Jones, similar to Alex Smith to Mahomes.

5. Preach.

6. Eh, it’s just a simple statement that implies Jones ain’t it. That statement is refuted by another simple statement which implies that the original commenter is wrong about Jones and/or or has a deeply flawed mental model of how football is played. In other words, the original commenter doesn’t know what the heck they’re talking about.

   I’ll expand…

   The statement that we need a QB implies that the team doesn’t have a QB, which further implies that Jones stinks and it’s because he either (A) always stunk, or (B) stinks now, and/or (C) is injury prone.

   (A) To refute that Jones has always stunk, one needs look no further than last season. The OL ranked 24th in pass blocking and Jones was throwing the ball to Ritchie James. Jones had 5 GWDs and ranked 5th in QBR, EPA per play and Points Added. That’s top 5 production with a bottom 5 supporting cast, something no QB in league history has ever achieved, outside of Jones.

   (B) Perhaps Jones didn’t stink before, but now he stinks as a result of taking too many shots behind this year’s historically bad offensive line? Well, if we assume that taking too many shots behind a terrible OL ruins a QB, then before selecting and then ruining another QB, the team should first fix the offensive line.

   (C) Perhaps Jones is “injury prone”? Except, he wasn’t injury prone in college, and as we’ve seen this season as offensive line play across the league has been worse: Bad offensive lines get QBs hurt– a LOT. So, playing behind bad OLs gets QBs hurt and Jones has played behind a middle of the pack line (no injuries), a bottom third of the league line, and the bottom of the barrel lines the rest of his career. He’s not injury prone, he’s been through a four year war. Even if we believe that now he’s injury prone because he’s taken too much punishment, we have to acknowledge that selecting another QB to play in this same situation will result in another “injury prone” QB.

   Personally, I think both B and C are true. So, we do need a new QB, but selecting one and playing them behind this line is lighting a draft pick on fire– *and that may actually be more pleasant than enduring what Jones has gone through to this point in his career [tongue in cheek].*

7. I was gonna post this but I didn’t wanna get downvoted by the “Daniel Jones would be a pro-bowler with an O-line” crowd