The question isn’t necessarily whether Geno is the problem (despite his shortcomings, there are far bigger issues with the team), the question is whether his play justifies his cap hit next season.
It’s coaching Brian, it’s always been coaching.
Geno was tremendous last game. He hasn’t been tremendous all season but he is definitely the better choice given other options. I’m just imagining Purdy in our scheme. That would be a sad show.
Right and now we have to start talking about where to assign some of this blame. As much as Reddit wants to blame Pete(and there is definitely some responsibility in his hiring choices), he’s not the one teaching all the positional details—- and that’s what’s been the worst this year.
Entire defense making basic execution errors that are not being corrected. Like just bad reads and showing up to wrong gaps, etc. Who teaches that? Who teaches the OL how to manage stunts and games? Who teaches the WR the steps to run routes? Who’s designing high leverage plays without hot answers for the QB? Cause it’s all been bad this year.
I’m willing to bet you Pete doesn’t. It’s clear to me and anyone that’s had a single interview outside of retirement that his culture is not the problem, and that’s clearly what he brings to the table and he tries to coach up the coaches. Firing him will probably result in firing EVERYONE.
Sure you basically clean house in that situation and probably remove whatever problematic coaching there was. But you’re also signing the franchise up for a 5-10 year long rebuild plan. The grass ain’t greener on the other side and clearing the entire house means clearing the good things out of it too.
He’s not the solution either.
Geno is a fine qb while we build up other aspects of our team and develop an identity. Personally I hope we draft a developmental QB to ride pine while we figure out our defense.
People don’t really understand how olines work. They don’t understand how closely 5 guys need to work together for a QB or RB to do their thing. From simple stuff like blocking defenders to advanced like keeping Dline engaged and their hands and eyes down or when to disengage and move to the second level. So they see a poor performance and blame the passer or runner. No thought to two guy on the line going out, or multiple guys dealing with injury or not having played consistently…
Beyond our Oline issues this year too often we aren’t scheming our WR’s open or leaving Geno an easy(blind) dump to a TE or RB. On every play we need some kind of no look necessary dump for Geno to take if the route options aren’t there…
Geno’s a good QB. We can stop litigating this. He’s handled the awful hand dealt with the O-line injuries all year, got hurt because of it, and continues to play good football. If your bar for what a good QB is means that he can never be strip sacked, or take a coverage sack holding the ball a little too long, or fails to make the right decision 100% of the time, then by that definition there are like 4 good QBs in the league.
People just want stuff the blame shit on. They lost to a team just as good as them, happens every week. There doesn’t have to be some larger issue that caused the outcomes you didn’t like; there’s no one thing you could change that solves your problems. The week-long shitfest after every loss is so exhausting. I know every fan base experiences it on social media to some degree, but man it’s been bad with both the Seahawks and lately the Mariners.
We need to better our defense and OLine first before this big move at QB.
“Please draft Malik Willis”
There is a group of football fans in general that immediately blame QB no matter what for some reason. Could be pressured all game, targets creating no separation, running backs going no where, defense gives up 35 points and people will still blame the QB even if he puts up 31 points.
Nailed it!
It’s sad that after chasing-off the greatest QB in team history, the exact same issues persists and the new QB is now being blamed, using the same unsupported claims (costs too much, holds the ball too long, forces too many throws, etc.).
Our defense is horrendous by every metric. There’s a reason we need comebacks to compete mediocre teams and get thrashed by elite teams. People look at the final play of the Dallas games and blame Geno for that loss, but gloss over the fact the D forced zero punts. Or they say Lock looked better than Geno in the @SF game, and forget about the 10 yards/play the D allowed. If it wasn’t for Geno last year, we would’ve had a true tank season and 2 top 10 picks. This year is more of the same. People hate Russ, but he was able to withstand what has been almost half a decade of bad D and bad OLine. Geno is doing it too. He just didn’t have a SB win to get people to cut him some slack.
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The question isn’t necessarily whether Geno is the problem (despite his shortcomings, there are far bigger issues with the team), the question is whether his play justifies his cap hit next season.
It’s coaching Brian, it’s always been coaching.
Geno was tremendous last game. He hasn’t been tremendous all season but he is definitely the better choice given other options. I’m just imagining Purdy in our scheme. That would be a sad show.
Right and now we have to start talking about where to assign some of this blame. As much as Reddit wants to blame Pete(and there is definitely some responsibility in his hiring choices), he’s not the one teaching all the positional details—- and that’s what’s been the worst this year.
Entire defense making basic execution errors that are not being corrected. Like just bad reads and showing up to wrong gaps, etc. Who teaches that? Who teaches the OL how to manage stunts and games? Who teaches the WR the steps to run routes? Who’s designing high leverage plays without hot answers for the QB? Cause it’s all been bad this year.
I’m willing to bet you Pete doesn’t. It’s clear to me and anyone that’s had a single interview outside of retirement that his culture is not the problem, and that’s clearly what he brings to the table and he tries to coach up the coaches. Firing him will probably result in firing EVERYONE.
Sure you basically clean house in that situation and probably remove whatever problematic coaching there was. But you’re also signing the franchise up for a 5-10 year long rebuild plan.
The grass ain’t greener on the other side and clearing the entire house means clearing the good things out of it too.
He’s not the solution either.
Geno is a fine qb while we build up other aspects of our team and develop an identity. Personally I hope we draft a developmental QB to ride pine while we figure out our defense.
People don’t really understand how olines work. They don’t understand how closely 5 guys need to work together for a QB or RB to do their thing. From simple stuff like blocking defenders to advanced like keeping Dline engaged and their hands and eyes down or when to disengage and move to the second level. So they see a poor performance and blame the passer or runner. No thought to two guy on the line going out, or multiple guys dealing with injury or not having played consistently…
Beyond our Oline issues this year too often we aren’t scheming our WR’s open or leaving Geno an easy(blind) dump to a TE or RB. On every play we need some kind of no look necessary dump for Geno to take if the route options aren’t there…
Geno’s a good QB. We can stop litigating this. He’s handled the awful hand dealt with the O-line injuries all year, got hurt because of it, and continues to play good football. If your bar for what a good QB is means that he can never be strip sacked, or take a coverage sack holding the ball a little too long, or fails to make the right decision 100% of the time, then by that definition there are like 4 good QBs in the league.
People just want stuff the blame shit on. They lost to a team just as good as them, happens every week. There doesn’t have to be some larger issue that caused the outcomes you didn’t like; there’s no one thing you could change that solves your problems. The week-long shitfest after every loss is so exhausting. I know every fan base experiences it on social media to some degree, but man it’s been bad with both the Seahawks and lately the Mariners.
We need to better our defense and OLine first before this big move at QB.
“Please draft Malik Willis”
There is a group of football fans in general that immediately blame QB no matter what for some reason. Could be pressured all game, targets creating no separation, running backs going no where, defense gives up 35 points and people will still blame the QB even if he puts up 31 points.
Nailed it!
It’s sad that after chasing-off the greatest QB in team history, the exact same issues persists and the new QB is now being blamed, using the same unsupported claims (costs too much, holds the ball too long, forces too many throws, etc.).
Our defense is horrendous by every metric. There’s a reason we need comebacks to compete mediocre teams and get thrashed by elite teams. People look at the final play of the Dallas games and blame Geno for that loss, but gloss over the fact the D forced zero punts. Or they say Lock looked better than Geno in the @SF game, and forget about the 10 yards/play the D allowed. If it wasn’t for Geno last year, we would’ve had a true tank season and 2 top 10 picks. This year is more of the same. People hate Russ, but he was able to withstand what has been almost half a decade of bad D and bad OLine. Geno is doing it too. He just didn’t have a SB win to get people to cut him some slack.