[NHL Watcher] LeBrun on TSN Sportscentre: “The Price right now for Chris Tanev I’m told is a 2nd RD pick + another asset.
LeBrun on TSN Sportscentre: “The Price right now for Chris Tanev I’m told is a 2nd RD pick + another asset. The Leafs have no 2nd RD picks for the next 3 years, so it’s going to take a 1st RD pick if the Leafs want to get Chris Tanev out of Calgary”
— NHL Watcher (@NHL_Watcher) February 2, 2024
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I’d pay it
would love him but don’t know how they would make the cap work unless calgary retains.
DO IT
MORALE > ASSETS
Also defensive depth for potential injuries
ok now which roster player do we send back to make the cap work? VAN totally will pay this but i don’t think he fits without salary going back the other way.
Edit: VAN has 1.85 in cap space and can get up to 2.6 by sending Freidman down. Tanev makes 4.5 so this can work if VAN sends back ~2mn in salary or CGY retains 44%
2nd round + Myers for Tanev?
The Canucks would need to either trade Myers or Zadorov (I’d definitely prefer Myers) in this deal or an earlier one to make this work but if this is the price I say they should do it.
Edit: No offense guys but I feel like I’m taking crazy pills here, this is Tyler fucking Myers we’re talking about here. He’s consistently for every year he’s been on the team been one of the worst, least effective defensemen in the NHL by every metric and now that he looks better because every d-man on this team has looked better under a new defensive scheme the conclusion we are drawing is that Myers at 35 years old has magically vastly improved his game? Rather than the obvious that the defensive scheme under new coaching is driving positive outcomes that could be replicated and even improved with better d-men? I don’t get it.
2nd + julsen and they retain we toss in a 5th lol
I mean the Canucks could afford this… but the problem becomes, how the fuck do we fit him under that cap? The team is already running on the red line. Unless Soucy stays out until the offseason, there’s no possible way the team could make it work without losing someone else from the lineup.
Myers and a 2028 2nd and 2029 3rd
The Canucks would pay this, but they don’t want to remove from their current roster.
The answer is they’ll need to find a third team to retain for a pick, probably a 5th.
I assume that’s the reason they decided to have Lindholm be a seperate trade instead of one big one, couldn’t find a third team willing to do that just yet. Hopefully they find one closer to the deadline.
What about trading Mikhaev to make it work? With Lindholm on the roster and Kuzy gone, do we really want to bring along the uncertainty of Mikhaev and his heavy cap hit into the playoffs? We still have some AHL players that could make the jump before the end of the season and play bottom 6 minutes. (Bains, Podkolzin?)
I know Mikhaev brings a lot to the table with speed and his 2 way play, but he can’t score his way out of a cardboard box and having Tanev to help lock down the defence for the playoffs (especially with the chance of an injury happening) seems a lot more important to me than keeping a forward with that cap hit that doesn’t have finish.
Soucy on LTIR, then back for the playoffs. Cap circumvention 👍🏼
Only way this works is if Chicago somehow gets involved with the double retention to bring the salary down to 1.1M and we get a 2nd RD pick to flip to Calgary for Tanev.
But that means sending young player + picks to Chicago to get a 2nd and double retention and then sending the 2nd RD and asset to Calgary. I don’t think they want to move someone off the roster so it has to be someone in Abby with some value which is not ideal
Serious question. I love Tanev but does it not undercut Rutherford and Allvin’s ability to negotiate when it’s publicly out there the team is interested in him? Brian Burke hated when he was put in that position, because it built up presumption best efforts were being made when most of the time, he had already passed. I’d be very surprised if Tanev ends up in Vancouver. I got to imagine if he did, he’d feel super incentive to play extra hard, it would be his last, best chance to win a cup.
It’s amazing how many Canadian teams want Tanev. Ottawa has already been discussed, and now Toronto (for obvious reasons, Ontario boy).
This is going to drive the price up, so Canucks would be better off hoping he makes it to FA rather than in-season trade. We can’t afford another 1st rounder.
I know the fanbase has tunnel vision on Tanev, but I just don’t see how they pull it off in-season. Even if you are comfortable moving the assets, how do you carve out the cap-space.
Tanev to me seems like more of an offseason play.
In my mind, Bogosian makes a lot more sense as a cheap rental (and then go after Tanev in free agency).
We need 50% retention to make it work so add to the that stated cost
The leafs are gonna overpay for him. In fact they’re probably scrambling to get something done quick so they dont run out of time like jet black
Soucy suddenly about to go on LTIR for the rest of the season
I’m assuming the Canucks are working on a way to get this done too. Maybe a 3 way trade to get Calgary the picks they want is in the works.
2025 2nd + Klimovich?
I don’t see Tanev coming in unless Z, Cole or Myers is going elsewhere. There’s no way they’re having one of those 3 sit in the pressbox. Not even to mention the cap issue.
Didn’t Vancouver want Tanev in the Lindholm trade, but Calgary wanted an additional 1st? Perhaps Vancouver wanted them to retain, which drove the price up?
I am now going to be as grumpy as a sports fan can possibly be about my single downvote the other day
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Let’s do it! A crappy 2nd and another prospect. Time to say “this is our year” sure we are potentially pumping up Calgary’s future. The banner hanging above the arena will soften the blow of us getting smacked by our draft picks in 5 years 😂
I think our 2nd flew out the window with Dickinson if memory serves. And if Calgary would settle for next year’s pick (no) they’d probably want a premium asset.
Maybe a more complex trade would work if we sent them a premium asset but it was them who packaged a pick and Tanev with salary retained. I don’t think next year’s 2nd and Woo will do it.
What if we traded Mikeyhev to Anaheim for Frank Vatrano? Would we have enough capspace for Tanev as well then?
Every team knows he will sign with us anyways 😝
I watched Tanev take a small hit this year and pull up wincing and in pain.
He was injured for the last Calgary playoff run two years ago.
He is a shadow of his former self. I would get him if it didn’t cost anything for his character, but not as a legit top 4 option for a playoff run.