[@KCJHoop] If Bulls make trade today, management has publicly stated all along its desire to remain competitive. That makes trade with Philadelphia seemingly more difficult. But that’s the team to watch as we move closer to 2 pm.
February 8, 2024
hmmmmmm
27 comments
Uggggggggh
Seeing all the depressed people here make me thankful I dont give a shit about Basketball. Pulls are a poverty organization and are somehow stuck living in the past even more so than the Bears
Its amazing people still show up to the UC to see a mid team that has zero future and is just content on just being there
perpetually 42-46 til the heat death of the universe
Competitive dez nuts
In other words, Bulls management doesn’t know how to define “competitive.”
i mean honestly i’ve been a vocal hater of our situation but if ending continuity means something like trading for a package of korkmaz, covington and marcus morris… then im good with doing nothing for the third trade deadline in a row lol
As miserable as it’s been in recent years, this season feels the most depressing overall. It’s like purgatory with continued mediocrity on the horizon.
If AK doesn’t make a move again.
The problem is, we aren’t really competitive against the top third of the league.
That damn Wolves game made everyone think that this is a good thing they have going on
I get the desire for a competitive rebuild, and the need to keep some culture guys so the young guys don’t get used to losing, but the current young guys have already had the chance to play with DeMar and Caruso. Let’s flip them for something and sign two more competitive vets in the off-season.
No, they won’t be as good, but we’re in LaVine purgatory now and need to focus on getting assets back while remaining competitive.
My fear is that that fucking Wolves game had everyone thinking “see we can beat anyone in the play in, we just need to keep playing like that, instead of how we always play.”
I would do Demar + Drummond for Morris, Batum, Springer, 1st and 2 seconds.
AKME
AK/ME have the easiest jobs in the world.
This tells me that Andre and Demar have been requested, which would leave the Bullls effectively in a full rebuild, with Coby and Vuc. AK has to make the choice between finishing as a mediocre team with Demar and Dre, or a terrible team- but getting something instead of nothing for Demar.
Ownership makes more money (short term) from a play-in team than a bottom-third or rebuild team, and Demar is off the books this summer, so it’s more lucrative short term to keep him and Dre. Plus no matter what you’re paying 50 million for Zach and Lonzo next year. So any rebuild is at least 2 years out. Billy obviously doesn’t want to lose a 30ppg guy and a reliable big. So I’m guessing Jerry and Billy both oppose this trade.
Ppl want trades but I really see no benefit in getting 2nd round picks and/ or below average bench players for drum n demar. Maybe they could get a late 1st round for ac….
But the guys the need to move are ball n lavine that’s 60 mil doing nothing. That’s the problem, trading guys who are actually helping for scraps is not the answer
“remain”
I would like to gate keep Alex Caruso that is all
The problem is Demar isn’t worth that much. We’d probably get a 2nd or two for him because he could just leave whatever team trades for him in free agency. If the difference between keeping him and letting him walk is that Id rather just keep him and live with letting him walk in the summer. We’ve already won to many games to out tank at least 7 teams and trading him would only move our position in the draft slightly if at all.
If you’re not going to trade Demar then keeping Drummond and Caruso makes sense to as both have been impactful for winning games for us.
Imo if we let Demar walk and can move Zach for expirings before summer of 2025 we can rebuild with 0 assets from any of our big 3 that summer with cap space, our next two draft picks and the development of the young guys we do have. Obviously not championship but tanking until you land an MVP player isn’t a strategy either.
Demar should 100% be traded and Drummond if you can get a solid return.
It doesn’t matter who the FO is, the Reinsdorfs are the real FO. Pax, Karn, etc are just fall guys. And the Reinsdorfs don’t care about team success.
lol at all of you wanting to trade our core pieces for SCRAPS. First of all, what the hell are 2nd rounders going to do for our franchise? They’re scratch off lotto tickets at best. Second, you think Coby is going to want to stay when we sell off everything we have and he’s stuck with a team of washed up support vets and young B-tier players? Third, next year’s draft sucks ASS. It’s comparable to 2000. You want to tank for the next Kwame Brown? Be my guest. But I ain’t giving up Caruso or Demar for a chance to pick at a shitty draft class.
The decision making goes way deeper and way more complex than your little thoughts typing on an online forum and delusional espn trade machine ideas.
We’re in the play-in in one of the most balanced standings in the history of the NBA. No one team is so elite that when we play at our best with this squad, we can’t beat. Let’s enjoy some play-in basketball while we have it, because last year’s Toronto and Miami games were exhilarating as fuck. Way better than watching other teams compete while we’re packing our things.
I don’t watch solely to watch my team win titles. Yes that’d be nice, but I want to watch my team compete at a high level with what we got, and I’m excited to see who AKME picks up at the trade deadline.
Goddam this sub man.
The play in tournament was such a godsend creation for Resinsorf, he gets to finally have a perennial wildcard team
Fuck Ak
Right now I guarantee they view this season as a success. The UC is full and they’re going to host a ”playoff” game. They’re gonna do mostly nothing of consequence and then do a press conference where they tell you it’s a good team and they are confident this team can win a playoff series when healthy.
Assuming they want to hold on to the 9th seed and stay out of the luxury tax, I think they’ll talk themselves into not making any big changes. Maybe Drummond gets moved for picks but with this newfound Drummond/Vucevic front court dynamic they’ll probably wanna hold on to him.
Jevon Carter seems utterly expendable, I could see him going in a salary dump. But that would also be AK admitting his big free agency get was a fail, so maybe not.
At most I predict they do a salary dump, then get one guy off waivers to shore up the offense since Zach’s out. The east is such trash that a 9th or 10th place finish are doable even with this team in its current state.
It’s likely too late to bottom out this season and even doing so with the weak upcoming draft class doesn’t make a lot of sense realistically. This offseason is where we will likely see things shift.
27 comments
Uggggggggh
Seeing all the depressed people here make me thankful I dont give a shit about Basketball. Pulls are a poverty organization and are somehow stuck living in the past even more so than the Bears
Its amazing people still show up to the UC to see a mid team that has zero future and is just content on just being there
perpetually 42-46 til the heat death of the universe
Competitive dez nuts
In other words, Bulls management doesn’t know how to define “competitive.”
i mean honestly i’ve been a vocal hater of our situation but if ending continuity means something like trading for a package of korkmaz, covington and marcus morris… then im good with doing nothing for the third trade deadline in a row lol
As miserable as it’s been in recent years, this season feels the most depressing overall. It’s like purgatory with continued mediocrity on the horizon.
If AK doesn’t make a move again.
The problem is, we aren’t really competitive against the top third of the league.
That damn Wolves game made everyone think that this is a good thing they have going on
I get the desire for a competitive rebuild, and the need to keep some culture guys so the young guys don’t get used to losing, but the current young guys have already had the chance to play with DeMar and Caruso. Let’s flip them for something and sign two more competitive vets in the off-season.
No, they won’t be as good, but we’re in LaVine purgatory now and need to focus on getting assets back while remaining competitive.
My fear is that that fucking Wolves game had everyone thinking “see we can beat anyone in the play in, we just need to keep playing like that, instead of how we always play.”
I would do Demar + Drummond for Morris, Batum, Springer, 1st and 2 seconds.
AKME
AK/ME have the easiest jobs in the world.
This tells me that Andre and Demar have been requested, which would leave the Bullls effectively in a full rebuild, with Coby and Vuc. AK has to make the choice between finishing as a mediocre team with Demar and Dre, or a terrible team- but getting something instead of nothing for Demar.
Ownership makes more money (short term) from a play-in team than a bottom-third or rebuild team, and Demar is off the books this summer, so it’s more lucrative short term to keep him and Dre. Plus no matter what you’re paying 50 million for Zach and Lonzo next year. So any rebuild is at least 2 years out. Billy obviously doesn’t want to lose a 30ppg guy and a reliable big. So I’m guessing Jerry and Billy both oppose this trade.
Ppl want trades but I really see no benefit in getting 2nd round picks and/ or below average bench players for drum n demar. Maybe they could get a late 1st round for ac….
But the guys the need to move are ball n lavine that’s 60 mil doing nothing. That’s the problem, trading guys who are actually helping for scraps is not the answer
“remain”
I would like to gate keep Alex Caruso that is all
The problem is Demar isn’t worth that much. We’d probably get a 2nd or two for him because he could just leave whatever team trades for him in free agency. If the difference between keeping him and letting him walk is that Id rather just keep him and live with letting him walk in the summer. We’ve already won to many games to out tank at least 7 teams and trading him would only move our position in the draft slightly if at all.
If you’re not going to trade Demar then keeping Drummond and Caruso makes sense to as both have been impactful for winning games for us.
Imo if we let Demar walk and can move Zach for expirings before summer of 2025 we can rebuild with 0 assets from any of our big 3 that summer with cap space, our next two draft picks and the development of the young guys we do have. Obviously not championship but tanking until you land an MVP player isn’t a strategy either.
Demar should 100% be traded and Drummond if you can get a solid return.
It doesn’t matter who the FO is, the Reinsdorfs are the real FO. Pax, Karn, etc are just fall guys. And the Reinsdorfs don’t care about team success.
lol at all of you wanting to trade our core pieces for SCRAPS. First of all, what the hell are 2nd rounders going to do for our franchise? They’re scratch off lotto tickets at best. Second, you think Coby is going to want to stay when we sell off everything we have and he’s stuck with a team of washed up support vets and young B-tier players? Third, next year’s draft sucks ASS. It’s comparable to 2000. You want to tank for the next Kwame Brown? Be my guest. But I ain’t giving up Caruso or Demar for a chance to pick at a shitty draft class.
The decision making goes way deeper and way more complex than your little thoughts typing on an online forum and delusional espn trade machine ideas.
We’re in the play-in in one of the most balanced standings in the history of the NBA. No one team is so elite that when we play at our best with this squad, we can’t beat. Let’s enjoy some play-in basketball while we have it, because last year’s Toronto and Miami games were exhilarating as fuck. Way better than watching other teams compete while we’re packing our things.
I don’t watch solely to watch my team win titles. Yes that’d be nice, but I want to watch my team compete at a high level with what we got, and I’m excited to see who AKME picks up at the trade deadline.
Goddam this sub man.
The play in tournament was such a godsend creation for Resinsorf, he gets to finally have a perennial wildcard team
Fuck Ak
Right now I guarantee they view this season as a success. The UC is full and they’re going to host a ”playoff” game. They’re gonna do mostly nothing of consequence and then do a press conference where they tell you it’s a good team and they are confident this team can win a playoff series when healthy.
Assuming they want to hold on to the 9th seed and stay out of the luxury tax, I think they’ll talk themselves into not making any big changes. Maybe Drummond gets moved for picks but with this newfound Drummond/Vucevic front court dynamic they’ll probably wanna hold on to him.
Jevon Carter seems utterly expendable, I could see him going in a salary dump. But that would also be AK admitting his big free agency get was a fail, so maybe not.
At most I predict they do a salary dump, then get one guy off waivers to shore up the offense since Zach’s out. The east is such trash that a 9th or 10th place finish are doable even with this team in its current state.
It’s likely too late to bottom out this season and even doing so with the weak upcoming draft class doesn’t make a lot of sense realistically. This offseason is where we will likely see things shift.
“Remain” “competitive”