[Geno getting hip-drop tackled in the video] Wasn’t this the same play that Pete (and Geno) was told that it was not considered a “hip-drop” and there was no fine or repercussion handed out from the NFL? This is why we have trust issues with the refs.
Here’s the video the NFL just showed in a press conference of what are now banned swivel hip-drop tackles (with NFL executive Jeff Miller speaking in the background). pic.twitter.com/Y4H8h6pQkW
— Tom Pelissero (@TomPelissero) March 25, 2024
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I don’t think anybody told anybody this wasn’t a hip drop tackle? Hip drop tackles just weren’t against the rules until today
Geno was pissed off about that tackle for the rest of the game too
The NFL has a history of backing the refs even on their most egregious screw ups, so its not surprising at all that they didn’t do anything at the time, especially since the hip drop was not illegal.
I think the main issue at the time was whether or not the hit was late since Geno was well out of bounds when it occured, and again, the NFL will back the refs every time.
It’s inclusion in a video package of tackles that used to be legal but are now illegal makes a lot of sense. I’m sure it’s “better late than never” to him at this point.
I understand the danger and risk in these tackles. In some of them, I see a way where the defender could potentially do something else w his body to get the tackle. On a lot of them though, if they don’t drop their weight, the runner wouldn’t go down. What are they supposed to do? Just let them run by because they aren’t at the best angle possible to get a tackle?
It wasn’t illegal when it happened.
If our defense knew how to tackle, I bet they’d be pissed about this
Love how the Geno Smith example had no in-game penalty or fine, despite being a hip drop tackle and a late hit out of bounds.
Are you trying to pull a victim card about this now that it’s illegal? The hit clearly wasn’t ideal, and Geno was pissed off enough to (if I remember right) get us a penalty shortly after that. The game is done.
Personally I think this new rule is going to cause a metric shitstorm at some point in the coming season. Pat McAfee and his guys talked about it earlier as well, and they seemingly had the same thoughts about it. They bring up the blind side pass rusher being in a predicament (they’re trying to tackle at a side angle many times), where if they try to form tackle and they turn and their legs elevate, you now have a drop tackle penalty. If you go to hit them normally, you still are risking the body weight roughing the passer. They also bring up trail technique and all that stuff, just highlighting the scenarios where these things happen, and how defenders are going to end up being penalized for making the play the only way they can in the moment, or they’re going to have to get burned and try to square up and use recovery speed to target below the hips.
Genoi hit could of ended his career .. Not cool
I’m sure someone here can enlighten me, but I don’t understand, all these tackles look like just a defender doing their job, which is to take down the ball carrier.
Not sure why people are making this seem like it’s the end of football. The hip drop is just as identifiable as a horse collar tackle and it’s not like you see a ton of those(I believe the stat is an average of one hip drop a game with 1 in 5 causing injury). People act like every tackle from behind is going to be called a tip drop. You even have Pat McAfee claiming that football players can just fall backward a la Lebron James and flop drawing a flag.
The fact that you don’t see it very often as is gives me cause to think that this addition is much to do about nothing in regard to game outcome or flow of the game.
We might as well bring back the horse collar if you think this sorta play should be left alone.
Let the downvoting begin
Can someone explain what a hip drop tackle is? I’m not familiar with the terminology.
Edit- I looked it up. I think the tackle on Geno is demonstrative of the technique. I could see this being responsible for a lot of lower body injuries.
Yeah, it was clearly a completely unnecessary tackle that should’ve been penalized/fined, as Geno was going out of bounds/giving himself up. The hip drop tackle issue is separate, as it wasn’t an illegal move in the normal context of the game, but it is a cheap shot as he was already out of bounds when it happened.
Good it is objectively positive that they got rid of that dirty hit. NRL got rid of it things are just fine. Id rather the game have a few “bad” interpretations/calls of this nature than the FFA it was allowing it.
Every hawk tackle this year with now be a hip-drop tackle.
What do you mean there was “no fine or repercussions”? The hip drop tackle was legal last year. What the fuck would they fine somebody for?
Probably more dangerous than the horse collar as the weight of the tackler is on the lower legs with his arms pulling the runner backwards. Lots of stress on the knees
That is comically subjective.
why does the nfl even bother with tackling? just go to touch already. you’re so scared of injury, sorry, owners are so scared of paying injury clauses that the game isn’t the game anymore.
Maybe I’m missing something but why would there be a flag or fine for what was, at the time, a legal tackle?
Was Geno hurt? So why are we talking about this?
JS was in with Wyman and Bob and commented on this. The play isn’t actually too difficult to break down which is legal and which is not. I just hope they make it illegal for offensive players to block below the waist.