Is Arik Armstead’s Departure from the 49ers Justified?
March 28, 2024
Is Arik Armstead’s Departure from the 49ers Justified?
28 comments
Yes, he was overpriced
For who? Teams have to decide where a player’s value fits in with their positional and financial needs. He hasn’t been great the last two years and didn’t want to help the team by taking a lower salary. That’s his option. But the team is trying to keep a large part of the core together and others have restructured their deals to try to make that possible. Some players are more about winning and some are more about immediate financial gain. No right or wrong, just what’s important to them.
100%. He’s a legend of the team and would have been great to have him around but he predates Shanny and so of the guys you hate to see go, he was by far the easiest decision on letting him walk.
He couldn’t stay healthy he missed 13 games the past 2 seasons.
Few years too late. Should’ve kept Buckner.
Let the record show where he went: Jacksonville, a team with Trent Baalke (the GM who drafted Armstead) as their GM. Trent Baalke never cared about injury situations when he was drafting or signing players. That’s why he was fired as GM: none of those high priced, highly drafted players could ever stay healthy.
Being able to stay healthy is a skill, some players can, others can’t. There are freak injuries (like Bosa’s 2020 ACL; Bosa hasn’t had any injuries besides the one freak one), but a lot of injuries are preventable. Arik Armstead is at an age, and with his history the last few years, he’s a massive injury risk.
Here’s the question, if I put the over / under on how many games Armstead plays for the Jags at 10 games for next season, would you take the over or the under?
I’d take the under, the injury he suffered last year tends to be the kind that never fully heals and is always a problem.
So over rated it’s not funny! Good guy but is very much a mediocre DT. He started playing too high and was honestly too tall for a DT.
Yes, overpriced and underplayed
Yes he’s not worth the money Jacksonville paid him imo
I mean, ultimately we as fans see both sides.
1. We understand that we want to keep players forever. We love the players, especially guys who have been here at a high level. 2. We understand that players careers are short and they’re entitled to earn as much as they can. 3. We understand the team needs to be frugal to be competitive. And we want a competitive team.
At the end of the day it is a business, and we can’t fault players for trying to maximize their earnings, but then we also can’t fault the franchise for moving off of players they cannot afford.
Is it ***justified***? Of course, it’s justified given the amount of money he was taking up in the cap for the amount of snaps he played, in the position he played at the level he played. Do we like it? No. I don’t think anyone disputes credibly that it’s justified.
The flip side though is that if he wanted to stay, he could have probably worked it out. I have sympathy for his situation but i also have a hard time when he’s turning down an offer that will be more money than i’ll earn in my entire life. If you add up the net earnings of every single one of my ancestors and myself, it’s less than he was ***offended by*** and ***turned down,*** on top of already being wealthy enough to retire.
At $27 mil it’s a joke. I know he’s a good player and underrated, but he has never been a pro bowler, had more than 6 sacks once in his entire career and has missed 13 games over the past 2 seasons. He talks in that video like he’s Nick Bosa. I think he was a great leader and a good guy and I’m happy he got his bag, but I’m happier we didn’t pay him that much.
Why are we still talking about this? He missed too many games over the past 2 years and would’ve been too expensive at his age. It’s business not personal.
Teams cut players for cap reasons all the time. I don’t understand the fuss over moving on from Armstead. He’s no where near the only player a team moved on from for financial reasons this offseason.
Of course it is, why would we pay him 50 mil for 3 sacks a year and missing 3/4 of the season with a chronic foot injury that is only gonna get worse
As much as I like Armstead this is the second year he’s been injury plagued. The pay cut request was justified because he wasn’t performing at the level of his contract…. You can’t sit out half the season the expect to be paid regardless of your tenure…. He should have taken the cut like juice did to help get more talent. He will kick himself in the ass when his new team doesn’t make the playoffs and the Niners finally win it all…. Shoulda Coulda Woulda but didn’t
Absolutely, chronic injuries and he isn’t getting any younger. Missed to many games over the past two seasons to remain paid at that level. Love the guy however we realistically needed to move on.
He plays half the games he’s supposed to so we offered him half the money he deserves with bonuses if he stayed healthy and produced. He left for more guaranteed money somewhere else. Best of luck to him. I liked his play when he was healthy but he’s not worth elite money at this point in his career.
Jesus, if I see another article on how he was disrespected, I’m gonna scream. It’s a business – a production and performance-based business. If you are hurt 30% of the time, you create a problem, because the team needs to find someone to fill your spot when you’re not available. That means two players, two salaries, instead of one. I’m overstating it, but it’s a reality. They could not count on him to be on the field, and that hurt the team. That said, I loved him as a Niner and wish him the best. But come on, were they supposed to pay him $15 million a year? No way.
When did he ever actually make an impact?
Forget about justified. With an upcoming QB extension deal and other high impact players, would you pick Brock + Aiyuk or Brock + Armstead + 1st round pick with our track record?
To build a sustainable team, you have to make tough decisions on aging players even if they have been on the team for a long period of time.
Time will heal wounds and no question he should be part of the ring of honor after he retires.
Yeh he already complain about income tax… let the dude go
Yes
Cap casualty. Injuries. Don’t feel bad for him. He made a ton of money. He’s a fantastic dude and I wish him the best.
Yes. He made a business decision and we have more gaps to fill for the price JAX paid for him
Arik’s been solid but always a little overhyped. Wish him the best, man deserves whatever bag he can get, but he never really seemed irreplaceable. They had to hype him up to justify the Buckner trade. Let Baalke try to prove himself as the genius talent scout he never was
Yes and no. That’s part of the problem with being a top Team with Top Star players. There’s only so much money available to top players that eventually cuts will have to be made. I think if he had remained healthy these last 2 years I think they would have found a way to make it work. But missing 13 games isn’t justified for keeping his salary at 18 mil. Next off season will have even tougher decisions because your going to have a QB going from $1 mill to $40 mill a year. I get both sides. But eventually you run out of cap space.
Justified for both sides.
Life sucks lol
He was a good player who was overpaid and missed to much time.
28 comments
Yes, he was overpriced
For who? Teams have to decide where a player’s value fits in with their positional and financial needs. He hasn’t been great the last two years and didn’t want to help the team by taking a lower salary. That’s his option. But the team is trying to keep a large part of the core together and others have restructured their deals to try to make that possible. Some players are more about winning and some are more about immediate financial gain. No right or wrong, just what’s important to them.
100%. He’s a legend of the team and would have been great to have him around but he predates Shanny and so of the guys you hate to see go, he was by far the easiest decision on letting him walk.
He couldn’t stay healthy he missed 13 games the past 2 seasons.
Few years too late. Should’ve kept Buckner.
Let the record show where he went: Jacksonville, a team with Trent Baalke (the GM who drafted Armstead) as their GM. Trent Baalke never cared about injury situations when he was drafting or signing players. That’s why he was fired as GM: none of those high priced, highly drafted players could ever stay healthy.
Being able to stay healthy is a skill, some players can, others can’t. There are freak injuries (like Bosa’s 2020 ACL; Bosa hasn’t had any injuries besides the one freak one), but a lot of injuries are preventable. Arik Armstead is at an age, and with his history the last few years, he’s a massive injury risk.
Here’s the question, if I put the over / under on how many games Armstead plays for the Jags at 10 games for next season, would you take the over or the under?
I’d take the under, the injury he suffered last year tends to be the kind that never fully heals and is always a problem.
So over rated it’s not funny! Good guy but is very much a mediocre DT. He started playing too high and was honestly too tall for a DT.
Yes, overpriced and underplayed
Yes he’s not worth the money Jacksonville paid him imo
I mean, ultimately we as fans see both sides.
1. We understand that we want to keep players forever. We love the players, especially guys who have been here at a high level.
2. We understand that players careers are short and they’re entitled to earn as much as they can.
3. We understand the team needs to be frugal to be competitive. And we want a competitive team.
At the end of the day it is a business, and we can’t fault players for trying to maximize their earnings, but then we also can’t fault the franchise for moving off of players they cannot afford.
Is it ***justified***? Of course, it’s justified given the amount of money he was taking up in the cap for the amount of snaps he played, in the position he played at the level he played. Do we like it? No. I don’t think anyone disputes credibly that it’s justified.
The flip side though is that if he wanted to stay, he could have probably worked it out. I have sympathy for his situation but i also have a hard time when he’s turning down an offer that will be more money than i’ll earn in my entire life. If you add up the net earnings of every single one of my ancestors and myself, it’s less than he was ***offended by*** and ***turned down,*** on top of already being wealthy enough to retire.
At $27 mil it’s a joke. I know he’s a good player and underrated, but he has never been a pro bowler, had more than 6 sacks once in his entire career and has missed 13 games over the past 2 seasons. He talks in that video like he’s Nick Bosa. I think he was a great leader and a good guy and I’m happy he got his bag, but I’m happier we didn’t pay him that much.
Why are we still talking about this? He missed too many games over the past 2 years and would’ve been too expensive at his age. It’s business not personal.
Teams cut players for cap reasons all the time. I don’t understand the fuss over moving on from Armstead. He’s no where near the only player a team moved on from for financial reasons this offseason.
Of course it is, why would we pay him 50 mil for 3 sacks a year and missing 3/4 of the season with a chronic foot injury that is only gonna get worse
As much as I like Armstead this is the second year he’s been injury plagued. The pay cut request was justified because he wasn’t performing at the level of his contract…. You can’t sit out half the season the expect to be paid regardless of your tenure…. He should have taken the cut like juice did to help get more talent. He will kick himself in the ass when his new team doesn’t make the playoffs and the Niners finally win it all…. Shoulda Coulda Woulda but didn’t
Absolutely, chronic injuries and he isn’t getting any younger. Missed to many games over the past two seasons to remain paid at that level. Love the guy however we realistically needed to move on.
He plays half the games he’s supposed to so we offered him half the money he deserves with bonuses if he stayed healthy and produced. He left for more guaranteed money somewhere else. Best of luck to him. I liked his play when he was healthy but he’s not worth elite money at this point in his career.
Jesus, if I see another article on how he was disrespected, I’m gonna scream. It’s a business – a production and performance-based business. If you are hurt 30% of the time, you create a problem, because the team needs to find someone to fill your spot when you’re not available. That means two players, two salaries, instead of one. I’m overstating it, but it’s a reality. They could not count on him to be on the field, and that hurt the team. That said, I loved him as a Niner and wish him the best. But come on, were they supposed to pay him $15 million a year? No way.
When did he ever actually make an impact?
Forget about justified. With an upcoming QB extension deal and other high impact players, would you pick Brock + Aiyuk or Brock + Armstead + 1st round pick with our track record?
To build a sustainable team, you have to make tough decisions on aging players even if they have been on the team for a long period of time.
Time will heal wounds and no question he should be part of the ring of honor after he retires.
Yeh he already complain about income tax… let the dude go
Yes
Cap casualty. Injuries. Don’t feel bad for him. He made a ton of money. He’s a fantastic dude and I wish him the best.
Yes. He made a business decision and we have more gaps to fill for the price JAX paid for him
Arik’s been solid but always a little overhyped. Wish him the best, man deserves whatever bag he can get, but he never really seemed irreplaceable. They had to hype him up to justify the Buckner trade. Let Baalke try to prove himself as the genius talent scout he never was
Yes and no. That’s part of the problem with being a top Team with Top Star players. There’s only so much money available to top players that eventually cuts will have to be made. I think if he had remained healthy these last 2 years I think they would have found a way to make it work. But missing 13 games isn’t justified for keeping his salary at 18 mil. Next off season will have even tougher decisions because your going to have a QB going from $1 mill to $40 mill a year. I get both sides. But eventually you run out of cap space.
Justified for both sides.
Life sucks lol
He was a good player who was overpaid and missed to much time.