Opinion: Cardinals manager Oli Marmol needs to be shown the door
April 25, 2024
Facts.
27 comments
Cool it with the doooooom, fella.
My thoughts: I agree 100% Marmol needs to be GONE, as does Mo. Would I adore seeing Yadi replace him immediately, Y E S, but that’s not overly realistic. We know Yadi was in talks to come back in a more prominent position, but due to personal reasons that hasn’t come about(he wants and needs to be close to his Mother in Puerto Rico). I feel Stubby Clapp or Pop Warner are the best choices of those mentioned. They know the game, the team, the fans, and already have a longer more respected relationship within the dugout and clubhouse.
MLB Teams are more than just the players. The front office, coaches, medical staff, grounds crew, and every other staff member and the fans are a part of it as well. Marmol is NOT the only problem, but he is definitely a BIG part of the problem and getting rid of him is just one step to fixing and correcting the problem.
Mo needs to be shown the door, with Oli following on all fours with a leash.
We need a new manager now.
Show the fucker the door.
We were saying the same thing this time last year. Obviously not going to happen
Hot take
He can hold it open for Mo to walk out first
I’m not saying I like or dislike Oli, but this is objectively a stupid article.
1) does not give a single specific criticism of Oli’s managerial skills, just that he is terrible in general.
2) How can Oli have both been babied in 2022 by Pujols and Yadi, and then immediately have it be his fault 2023 went badly? He is either more or less responsible for the on fields results; he can’t be both less responsible for 2022’s success and more responsible for 2023’s failures. Also, considering Molina didn’t even make a spring training appearance this season, idk what this guy is talking about. Last thing here, how in the hell is this guy trying to say it’s a bad thing Oli consulted with his veteran players? Very contradictory.
3) what is up with all the references to available options for managerial promotion within the organization, as if Oli himself didn’t come from there? Like he was literally drafted by the cardinals. If there’s a problem with Oli, and apparently the organization itself, why would you want to essential do the same thing again (as opposed to an outside hire and rebuilding FO and coaching).
Once again, not saying I like or dislike Marmol, but arguments like this have no substance and just feel like doomer confirmation bias.
Doomer article about a team 3 games under .500 in April.
I don’t disagree that Marmol is a problem, but that article is terrible. “The Cardinals are an overall young team” – no they are they are the third oldest in MLB.
I will be down voted to hell for this, but I don’t think Yadi at manager is it for this team. Fantastic player, fantastic catcher, changed the game. He is honestly one of my favorite Cardinals that I got to grow up watching. But none of that translates to him being brought in to be the manager of a struggling team.
If we are going to fire Oli (which won’t happen because that would be Mo firing his 3rd straight handpicked manager), we need to bring in a seasoned manager to right the ship.
I don’t have an answer for who it should be, but I think it needs to be someone from outside the organization, maybe even someone who never wore the Cardinals uniform. This incestuous hiring is what got us to this point, and it’s going to take something drastic to get out of it.
Oh cool. Someone made a post game doom thread into a horribly written blog piece lol. Y’all need to chill. Maybe Ollie should be shown the door, but shit like this is just as embarrassing as the 14-1 loss that came before it.
Shoutout to the Alton Evening Telegraph. Takes me back to my paper route days.
I’m not an Oli fan, but acknowledge he isn’t the root issue.
But Mo should NOT get another manager pick.
He’d probably miss the door
I will never for the life of me understand people that fervently defend oli Marmol. He’s almost universally disliked yet some people find every reason they can not to join the hate train. He is absolutely not good at his job. Some things don’t work out. It’s ok to let go and move on. I don’t think any of the team’s success has ever been because of him, I think he has just gotten lucky enough to keep his head above water. If he isn’t fired during or after this season I will lose a lot of my whimsy I have for the Cardinals, I will view it more like a business than a storied franchise representing St. Louis.
I see we’re getting original on our off day.
You guys are gonna be so disappointed when you find out a manager can’t make a bad team into a good one
Things we all knew last year 🤷♂️
What a hot take… 🙄
Let’s just wait and see.
No Shit
This is a ridiculous article. I stopped reading when he mentioned Pop Warner. No offense to Pop, but do people seriously believe he’d single-handedly turn this team around? Or that he’d inspire the fan base to suddenly buy a bunch of tickets? C’mon now…
If players are struggling at ML level and ones at AAA are raking, that means the whole coaching staff needs replaced. Screw analytics, go back to basic hitting fundamentals. Power will follow .
Hire Ted Lasso!
I’ve never seen a manager get so many excuses for not producing wins
27 comments
Cool it with the doooooom, fella.
My thoughts: I agree 100% Marmol needs to be GONE, as does Mo. Would I adore seeing Yadi replace him immediately, Y E S, but that’s not overly realistic. We know Yadi was in talks to come back in a more prominent position, but due to personal reasons that hasn’t come about(he wants and needs to be close to his Mother in Puerto Rico). I feel Stubby Clapp or Pop Warner are the best choices of those mentioned. They know the game, the team, the fans, and already have a longer more respected relationship within the dugout and clubhouse.
MLB Teams are more than just the players. The front office, coaches, medical staff, grounds crew, and every other staff member and the fans are a part of it as well. Marmol is NOT the only problem, but he is definitely a BIG part of the problem and getting rid of him is just one step to fixing and correcting the problem.
Mo needs to be shown the door, with Oli following on all fours with a leash.
We need a new manager now.
Show the fucker the door.
We were saying the same thing this time last year. Obviously not going to happen
Hot take
He can hold it open for Mo to walk out first
I’m not saying I like or dislike Oli, but this is objectively a stupid article.
1) does not give a single specific criticism of Oli’s managerial skills, just that he is terrible in general.
2) How can Oli have both been babied in 2022 by Pujols and Yadi, and then immediately have it be his fault 2023 went badly? He is either more or less responsible for the on fields results; he can’t be both less responsible for 2022’s success and more responsible for 2023’s failures. Also, considering Molina didn’t even make a spring training appearance this season, idk what this guy is talking about. Last thing here, how in the hell is this guy trying to say it’s a bad thing Oli consulted with his veteran players? Very contradictory.
3) what is up with all the references to available options for managerial promotion within the organization, as if Oli himself didn’t come from there? Like he was literally drafted by the cardinals. If there’s a problem with Oli, and apparently the organization itself, why would you want to essential do the same thing again (as opposed to an outside hire and rebuilding FO and coaching).
Once again, not saying I like or dislike Marmol, but arguments like this have no substance and just feel like doomer confirmation bias.
Doomer article about a team 3 games under .500 in April.
I don’t disagree that Marmol is a problem, but that article is terrible. “The Cardinals are an overall young team” – no they are they are the third oldest in MLB.
I will be down voted to hell for this, but I don’t think Yadi at manager is it for this team. Fantastic player, fantastic catcher, changed the game. He is honestly one of my favorite Cardinals that I got to grow up watching. But none of that translates to him being brought in to be the manager of a struggling team.
If we are going to fire Oli (which won’t happen because that would be Mo firing his 3rd straight handpicked manager), we need to bring in a seasoned manager to right the ship.
I don’t have an answer for who it should be, but I think it needs to be someone from outside the organization, maybe even someone who never wore the Cardinals uniform. This incestuous hiring is what got us to this point, and it’s going to take something drastic to get out of it.
Oh cool. Someone made a post game doom thread into a horribly written blog piece lol. Y’all need to chill. Maybe Ollie should be shown the door, but shit like this is just as embarrassing as the 14-1 loss that came before it.
Shoutout to the Alton Evening Telegraph. Takes me back to my paper route days.
I’m not an Oli fan, but acknowledge he isn’t the root issue.
But Mo should NOT get another manager pick.
He’d probably miss the door
I will never for the life of me understand people that fervently defend oli Marmol. He’s almost universally disliked yet some people find every reason they can not to join the hate train. He is absolutely not good at his job. Some things don’t work out. It’s ok to let go and move on. I don’t think any of the team’s success has ever been because of him, I think he has just gotten lucky enough to keep his head above water. If he isn’t fired during or after this season I will lose a lot of my whimsy I have for the Cardinals, I will view it more like a business than a storied franchise representing St. Louis.
I see we’re getting original on our off day.
You guys are gonna be so disappointed when you find out a manager can’t make a bad team into a good one
Things we all knew last year 🤷♂️
What a hot take… 🙄
Let’s just wait and see.
No Shit
This is a ridiculous article. I stopped reading when he mentioned Pop Warner. No offense to Pop, but do people seriously believe he’d single-handedly turn this team around? Or that he’d inspire the fan base to suddenly buy a bunch of tickets? C’mon now…
If players are struggling at ML level and ones at AAA are raking, that means the whole coaching staff needs replaced. Screw analytics, go back to basic hitting fundamentals. Power will follow .
Hire Ted Lasso!
I’ve never seen a manager get so many excuses for not producing wins