I understand the QB frustrations over the past few years. You need a solid QB to win in the league.
But reality is, it’s not like we’re trotting Zach Wilson out there week after week. Daniel Jones proved he can be a capable QB in 2022, even win a playoff game, largely because of him, not in spite of him.
His progression is evident in the stats. His completion percentage has increased each season in the league. It was over 67 percent the past couple years. His INT per pass attempt has declined each year in the league, if you consider last year as an outlier, which I think needs to strongly be considered due to the historically horrific offensive line play. Sure, his passing yards and passing TDs don’t jump out by any means, but his offensive weapons were literally an aging Golden Tate, Kenny Golladay, Darius Slayton, etc. And the offense rarely ran thru him, but Saquon Barkley.
So, as Giants fans, let’s give this guy an honest chance this year, with hopefully capable offensive line play thru our free agency signings and athletic young talent at WR. If he can cut back on turnovers, I think we’re very likely going to see 2022 Daniel Jones again this year.
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So wait.. This dude has thrown for less than 15 TD’s and almost sub 3K passing yards in like 4 out his 5 seasons and LAST year is the outlier? 
I think we get our QB evaluations out of a crackerjack box, there’s no other reasoning.
Ya’ll gotta stop man.
4 years with $160M over $80+ guaranteed for being terrible and it STILL ain’t enough on an honest chance?
DJ better act right or get gone.. we done with the bs.
Malik Nabers is his best weapon since a semi washed Golden Tate. In reality this is a good thing because if it works, and the team overachieves as a whole again, we’re back to the playoffs. If it doesn’t, it’s obvious that DJ is the issue and we’re able to do something different moving forward with a much better foundation for whoever comes next.
22-36-1 is a great stat line for 5 seasons. Let’s hope he’s just as good in the next 5 years and we’ll be at the top of the draft then to pick another QB
I definitely do not think Daniel Jones is the future, but people saying “who’s going to throw to Nabers?” are annoying. You can’t fully rebuild a team in one offseason.
I am happy Giants didn’t take JJ and went with Nabers but, I still don’t think DJ is THE guy. No secret Giants tried to move up for probably Maye but that didn’t work out. They are in the market for QB, but glad they aren’t in desperation mode.
Listen I understand why people wanted QB cause I was in the go up and get Drake Maye camp, but ultimately sleeping on it I do see the nabers pick as not for DJ but for the team. He will help now and in the future. Now it will be all about what to do at QB. DJ is clearly not the answer. Watching tape and constantly asking DJ to do things QB that get paid in his range to do, is sad honestly. He still doesn’t see the whole field and slow to process and more problems. These are major concerns that need to be addressed whether he miraculously make a jump this year ( talking 3500+ yards, 35+ TD, low INT) or the giants rolling with Drew Lock to see what he can do. The one thing that we do know right now is DJ finally have no excuses! He ran out of excuses now. No more…. really he needs no more excuses.
2022 DJ is not a top 10 QB to me, he is borderline top 15 at best. That season is a outlier to me. The play calling was simple and he still made mistakes in that season. Yes I know every QB make mistakes…. We bitch about the WR and saying they dont get open ( the last two years) and there are many cases of our WR getting open down the field and DJ not looking his way. He still needs to prove that he can play and beat top defenses (which we are still waiting for that).
In all this is his last year to prove himself and play towards that big contract he got. DJ seat is not just on fire, that shit is in lava. He sit down his ass is burnt/gone so he gotta be on his shit this whole season and perform well. I dont want to hear “oh DJ couldnt perform well cause the line wasnt a top unit” or ” The team needs to be like San Fran so DJ or another QB can succeed”. Good/ Great QB ( DJ is being paid like one) elevate his team! DJ need to do that. NO MORE EXCUSES FOR HIM!…
Jones is not a good QB, but that doesn’t mean we should waste a 1st on another DJ. Hating DJ so much that you get mad we didn’t repeat Gettleman’s mistake from 2019 is ridiculous
I don’t get the “give this guy a fair chance.” We have given this guy 5 frickin years! What other franchise is giving their first round underperforming QB this long of a leash?
Nabers has been ahead of MHJ in some boards, there are people here that wanted the 4th best QB that was taken after 5 others?
Even if the Charger took Nabers, I doubt the Giants would pick him.
The main problem I have with Jones is that we legitimately looked like a better team with Tyrod Taylor at quarterback
Seems like the strategy is this: Jones can throw it, that’s never been the problem. The problem is that he doesn’t see the right person to throw it to on a lot of plays…so the strategy is just to make every option the right person…it just might work actually lol
The only reason why we need to give Jones a chance over a rookie QB is due to Schoen giving him a big bag this year….you can point to all of these stats…I can set up stats to show how he was NOT in the top 20 QB’s in nearly every important statistical category (most of which being wins….you get credit for wins…you get blame for losses).
And I’ll give you a fun statistic to consider – Jones’ int’s decreased, but his sacks increased…you want to know why? Because he was getting more and more gun shy from throwing under pressure. I get he doesn’t want to turn the ball over, but decreasing INT’s and fumbles doesn’t mean shit on 3rd and 7 and you’re going to take a sack and punt to the other team anyway (which felt like SOOO many games!). Guess who is in the top 10 in INT’s fairly regularly in the NFL….Patrick Mahomes…Josh Allen…Joe Burrow…guys who go to the playoffs because they are not afraid to TRY to win the f’n game. Sure some get turned over, but they try. Jones is a deer in headlights (And again, I DO come back to the o line needs to be improved…I would not be surprised if tonight in the 2nd or 3rd round an o-lineman is drafted to go with our 2 free agents we picked up).
But Jones’ 3rd down completion % is ass…meanwhile, PLAYOFF QB’s 3rd down % holds steady, and some actually increase which are stats that truly make a difference between the shit quality of a QB and a good quality of a QB.
I’m glad we didn’t draft a QB, not because we need to give Jones a chance, but because it would not have made sense to have a $40 mil player sitting on the sidelines…OR….a 1st round pick sitting on the sidelines…we need players who can start to change the trajectory of the team. We’re stuck with Jones another year, so better get other players…Nabers was about the BEST choice we could’ve hoped for in terms of a play maker/game changer…I would’ve gone O line, but at least Schoen didnt’ listen to the idiot mocks who suggested we draft McCarthy or worse, trade up to get Maye.
He’s had 5 chances. I’m tired of the whole “let’s just give him a chance” narrative. I’m fine with rebuilding with him, as it seems like the only option the team is going to go with right now. But a lot of you pretend as if the team is just benching him every year. He even got a contract to remain on the team. He’s had chances. I’ll at least say that he hasn’t had great receiving talent, but he’s made more than his share of mistakes.
Jones isn’t the answer but neither is JJ, Nabers was a great pick
No one knows whether or not this draft selection will ultimately be viewed as a mistake.
However, it’s unlikely that Nabers will immediately be a standout given the giants inability to throw the ball downfield in recent years – due to a combination of poor OL and QB play.
In addition, if JJ, Nix, or Penix turns out to be a stud, then the selection will likely be viewed as a mistake, regardless of how talented Nabers turns out to be.
I suspect that either Nabers underperforms (given historical issues w the entire O unit) or one of those QBs exceeds the expectations of most giants fans, ultimately rendering this choice a mistake in the eyes of fans.
Certainly hope I’m wrong, but I don’t like Daboll or Schoens long term survival odds with this selection. I think they have 2-3 years left before they’re both gone.
6 years of this guy
It’s funny you think showing his objectively shitty stats and record was a positive here
Numbers are hilarious because they made you and many others Jones is an NFL caliber QB when he’s not even close to.
Daniel Jones gives us the best chance at getting a top pick next year so I’m all for it
This statistical analysis is twisted. His comp % has gone up because he only dinks and dunks. He’s literally incapable of reading defenses so that he can make a downfield throw. He’s a bottom 5 NFL starter. And Schoen’s not done drafting. Stop trying to rewrite history. Dimes is pure butt cheeks
If our offense is so historically inept, why did Tyrod come in and play like a statistically slightly above average QB?
It was bad, but Jones certainly didn’t help.
There are people upset we didn’t take McCarthy? Where??
Dude DJ sucks. JJ also sucks. Nabers was just the correct choice for the situation. Will still need an upgrade at QB.
Oh cool, we’re at the Bargaining Stage again for Daniel Jones.
Wake me when you get to the Acceptance Stage that he’s a good backup quarterback and nothing more.
My concern is his ability to stay on the field. Can’t build around a qb who doesn’t play.
Well the NFE isn’t allowed to have a repeat division champ going on 20 years now, so there’s only 2 teams we need to worry about getting in our way of that title.
How come Tyrod Taylor was able to move the same team and same OL when Jones went down?
I’d be on board with giving him an honest chance if not for the fact that he’s clearly playing scared/seeing ghosts and QBs rarely if ever recover from that state of mind.
We took the best player available you can’t really hate that