Commanders fan here with a FIL who is a giants fan/season ticket holder so I have to watch Daniel jones take our soul twice a year in person. I watch every giants game as well as every commanders game so I know how bad the line was, I just don’t follow in depth like I do with Washington.
Was wondering if you guys had any more intel on why Bobby Johnson failed so bad at the OL coach position in NY? Was anything else going on? For example, lots of blame is placed on EB for terribly long route concepts that led to lots of sacks on Sam Howell. The actual offensive line metrics were not as bad as you’d expect.
BJ was highly regarded and seemingly successful in Buffalo with a great O line and good run blocking scheme. The knock seems to be that he didn’t develop the talent. We brought in Darnell Stapleton to serve as the more developmental guy. Is there any chance Bobby is not an absolute waste of space or is it a foregone conclusion that you guys pass us the torch for worst offensive line in the league and we have no hope of developing our 3rd round tackle?
Every time Washington reporters ask “why Bobby Johnson” they point to Buffalo and not his time with NYG. Like they are willing to completely erase it from his resume for some reason. It’s mind boggling having been made to watch all the games.
Thanks for the insight or funny memes or condolences, whichever direction this goes.
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Not reading all that, hes trash
I saw (on reddit mind you) his last year in Buffalo they had a bottom 5 Oline. He left and with essentially the same personnel they improved to middle of the pack.
Hes just bad.
I would expect the Commy line to get worse each year as he coaches more out of them. If the Dline ran ANY stunt, our oline was LOST. All year. Baffling hire.
I’m sorry for you and your new QB. Your o-line will forget everything good about the way they play and will turn intoSwiss cheese halfway thru the season.
Look at the way our o-line picked up stunts, bet you can’t because they didn’t pickup a single one. Look at Phillips who we cut and spend a few months in Philly. came back here and was actually our best RT. He fails at every level and i suspect whatever good he seemed to have done in buffalo was the work of somebody else.
But, thankyou. Feels good knowing we can only have the SECOND worst o-line in the league now
He is a terrorist
He seems like a really nice guy that other coaches really like to work with. That’s why he keeps getting jobs. That’s it.
Not only has he failed to develop any player, people seemed to flat out regress under him. Our o-line last year gave up the second most sacks. Ever. In the history of the NFL.
I can’t for the life of me understand why any team would take him as their OL coach – Especially a team in the division.
He is how teams tank while otherwise trying. If people don’t wind up dead it’s considered a winning ploy.
Great Riddance, Fantastic really
From what I have heard, he places too much emphasis on techniques that he thinks will work for everyone and doesn’t try and teach to the individual player.
From what I have seen, he doesn’t hold guys to a standard. Everyone who was here(Bar Andrew Thomas) got worse. I don’t think he is coaching during the season and trying to improve the little things. Guys then get bad habits and decline.
Another thing I have seen is that he isn’t able to coach the guys to work together. We have been horrendous at picking up stunts the past few years. There seems to be a general lack of communication between our guys.
Generally, he is a really bad coach. I am sorry(not really) that you guys have to deal with him. He will probably ruin Jayden Daniel’s.
Unrelated but I went to high school with Darnell Stapleton. Really good dude
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He’s awful
Buffalo fans were happy to see him go. The Bills were happy to let him walk without stopping him. Similarly, Giants fans were happy to see him go, and the Giants straight up didn’t want to keep him. That should tell you plenty.
I’m sure he’s a lovely guy, but there’s little indication that he’s particularly good at his job.
I feel like sometimes people have more success away from the org but the recent cases of that are limited.
We had a bad oline, Bobby came in and it stayed that way. Stunts were an issue with his predecessor and him. There were times it looked like no one knew their assignment except AT. We may have dumbass OL or something but Bobby certainly didn’t help
Bobby Johnson treats objects like women!
I think Bobby Johnson is similar to our QB Daniel Jones. He’s not the absolute worst in the world at what he does, but a poor situation will definitely exaggerate the weaknesses. Johnson isn’t a good option to develop a barren o-line like Washington’s. He also wasn’t that highly regarded after a horrendous final season in Buffalo
One guy went to the eagles for a bit last season. Came back a better player. He was a terrible oline coach for the giants can’t believe he got hired again tbh
Sorry your team made this awful decision. Giants invested pick 7 overall, a 2nd rounder, a 3rd and 5th rounder and brought in some mid but “decent” free agents under his tenure. Not 1 of them came close to expectations. We will find out this year imo if Joe Scheon just missed on every single one, or if they were not coached up in a way that lead to development. Or not even development, competence. Either way, hard to have much faith in the guy after his tenure here and he must be a real sweet talker to still have a job in the nfl
I’ll start by saying I don’t think he’s the ONLY reason our line has been awful for the last 2 seasons. I think Neal is just a straight up bust at this point, I think DJ’s inability to read defenses pre and post snap didn’t do the line any favors, and I also think some fans overrate how good some of the vets we brought in (namely Glowinski and Feliciano) were before they came here and act like we just ruined them. That being said, he’s also just not a good coach. You bring up Buffalo, but if you ask any Bills fan they’ll tell you he was not good there either. The difference is that Buffalo’s OL was mostly veterans, while we had a lot of youth that we were trying to develop (3 top 70 draft picks on OL in the first 2 seasons). He’s not good at developing OL, and with vets he’s not good at pushing them to that next level. The Bills OL also got better after he left. Also it was pretty damning when our swing tackle Tyre Phillips showed more improvement after spending a MONTH on the Eagles practice squad than some of our OL did in 2 years with Johnson
Yeah there’s really no sugarcoating it. He’s just a bad coach and I truly don’t understand how he got another job. There’s literally nothing to be optimistic about with him, he just sucks. Good luck to Jayden, he’ll need it.
My Bobby Johnson question
Why isn’t he in prison yet?
Lets put it this way, u/jaydendaniels will feel safer in our sub than he will behind your OL.
As a Bills fan, he’s fucking terrible. I was honestly shocked he went to the Giants. Dude could develop talent o save his life and whenever we’d get a decent FA to come they always have their worst statistical seasons with us.
Roger Saffold left the titans and was a very solid piece, came to Buffalo and PFF ranked him at a 45. Literally couldn’t block to save his life. Same with Spencer Brown, this last season was the first one he wasn’t just awful. The dude is a terrorist (that’s saying something as a Bills fan) and I have no idea how he’s still employed.
I’m convinced the only reason you hired him is because he worked with the Giants and maybe there’s a small world he has some Intel on our team. There’s no reality that you guys hired him for any other reason