Boston Red Sox’s Kenley Jansen on his Dodgers’ days, becoming a closer, Red Sox rotation & more
it was a little tough in the beginning but then hey once the game start you know it’s crazy the fans I remember the fans give me that set Vision but when I came in N it’s like oh man like all I hear is booze I’m like get it I respect it that’s all alen is [Applause] [Music] sometime by ball under the track at the wall it’s gone home run turns on a ball deep right field and go what a game what a moment all right I am pumped to welcome on the show now one of the greatest closers of all time Kenley Jansen Kenley thanks for joining me man I appreciate it thanks thanks for having me of course hey I want to start with what is going on out in C South that just produces all these MLB players you got you know you can go back and look at Andrew Jones Azie albz uh you know you got Jared Jurgens jerks and profar Jonathan scope yourself angelon Simmons it it seems like a hot bed for baseball Talent you come from there as well I mean what what’s going on out there how’s it so uh How’s It produced such great talent I think you know um first of all we got always you gotta say this thanks to Andrew Jones for doing what he did in the World Series so you know you know take two two homers you know in the World Series and put us on the map but then you know also it’s just how we start learning the game so young I feel like in age of four or five and I think it’s so intense and now they start to have more um like Turf like artificial grass but before that just you know learning how to play the game like taking ground balls on the dirt with rocks you know you gotta be afraid that ball doesn’t hit you in your face you know I think anathan say that you know um one time also too that it’s so hard you know to feel the ground ball like you know the the the field is uneven and you know you gotta make sure that ball don’t even you know blow one of your te away and I think just guys just learn you know that quick and so talented that you know learning the fundamentals also too that if you don’t know how to bun you know you’re not gonna play yeah so it’s it’s very you know trick I don’t know how it is now but it’s just yeah I remember when us growing up like fundamentally you have to be on point otherwise you’re not going to you know you’re not gonna play from from where you are and and watching Andrew Jones play growing up I’m I’m from Virginia I grew up a massive Atlanta Braves fan I was a I one of my favorite players was Andrew Jones watching him play The Outfield so I can’t imagine you as a kid growing up watching Andrew Jones seeing him and being able to say he’s from where I am so what was it like being able to watch him play in Major League Baseball growing up it’s unbelievable I grown up um you know with my parents being a Braves fan before Andrew got called up you know I remember watching the 1995 that short season that the bra Cleveland and win the World Series it was so excited and then I remember in 1996 when Andrew got called up I think it was I forgot July or August some some around there you know it it was um it was spectacular great story for Kira and what he did like I said what he did in the playoffs and the World Series I think it just get all of us hope you know that you feel like hey finally you have someone is representing you such a small you know Island and you know you don’t you don’t have hope like who’s gonna see you like which Scout is gonna scou you but I think what he did and you know the diving cat that he did in rightfield you know online almost remember that like on the the buen was there and he just didn’t Reckless running catch it and you know all those stuff like I still remember that like yesterday is just give us hope and I think of what he did in you know especially on 19 years old that time you know it was it was freaking unreal and I think Scout start to believe like hey let me go see what it is over there and next thing you know you start seeing you know more talented start to come on on on our Island riddle me this Kenley why the hell is Andrew Jones not in the Hall of Fame yet it’s it’s unbelievable you know like I I gotta be careful of what say you know but the thing is like I think you know it’s it’s great that I don’t know man I think what he did for 10 years of his career I feel like with the Braves and he he came up such a you know young age and 10 go CL like I don’t think you will never see a better defensive player like that no more in this game I mean it’s it’s unbelievable he the thing is that he was playing so shallow that’s one people don’t understand how he was playing and he put his head down and know where the ball is all the time and make it easy yeah it’s it’s unbelievable man and plus he had over 400 homers I get it he didn’t hit as you know average strike out a little bit but still man what he did I don’t know man to me you know 400 Homer 10 Gold Glove you know it’s playing in the big Le for 10 years is already hard yeah this 10 Gold Glove yeah you know me is yeah like I want to see that I want to see that happen you know I want to see you know sometimes you think like okay what writers are thinking you know sometimes why I asked those question all the times on majority of the writers and majority of them is telling me like they don’t understand why he’s not in the Hall of Fame and then it make me confused like so why is not in the Hall of Fame then you know you guys tell me the same story like you don’t understand why he’s in the Hall of Fame it’s like who’s doing who’s doing the voting so I have a lot of conversation with a lot of writers and every single one of them will tell you you won’t see a player that play defense like he did yeah than Andrew Jones it’s unbelievable that that’s what that’s the part that I don’t to hit over 400 homers and then on top of that you could ask every baseball fan that has ever existed and 99% of them if you say name a name three of the top outfielders of all time defensively everyone’s GNA name Andrew Jones he’s just known to be one of if not the best defensive outfielders of all time on top of hitting over 400 I just don’t get it I digress though that’s unbelievable I get it when he got with LA you know things went you know not as great you know but you can you can I don’t know man like you can’t punish me it’s just like like let’s let’s go a different um um sport like Sha Sha was one of the most dominant big men ever yeah and are you gonna sit down and look off his Celtics days his Phoenix days yeah you know he went through that also too but he’s still in the Hall of Fame you know but it’s the same thing I feel like it’s with Andrew like that stretch that he he was on it was and that stretch was a decade that stretch was a decade long I just I don’t those four or five years that he had and be like no oh no can this dude throw his first of all he was playing on Turf a lot like phly Montreal this dude was throwing his body left and right you know doesn’t care if he get hurt and yeah they watch playing every single day back then too it wasn’t like us now that oh that’s you know give you a break here and there is just straight up every day they was playing they was playing through hurt and all that stuff so you gota you got to see all those stuff and playing in Atlanta Atlanta’s hot too and then doing all that stuff and I played there one year and I’m like man how Andrew did this you know so crazy so to me yeah I still will say to me he’s a Hall of Famer no no doubt I mean you won’t see a better defense like what he retired now for for a while now and we still searching like tell me who’s better than him defensively right now yeah it’s hard to tell I agree for you growing up there what was the process like um signing with the Dodgers so young and what was was that process like for you man that process was great man um you know I remember I went to Dominican and Rene Francisco was there and you know he wants me to be a pitcher already then I remember but um I still they know how much I want to catch you know they they know the the god-given arm that I have and it was great man it was great and I remember my first year in ‘ 05 went to Vero Beach and you know you’re by yourself now your family is all in cous out you got to speak different language now you got to meet different personalities that was a scary part in the beginning but then you know you you you adjust to it and and it was fun and it was fun I gotta say you know that experience at Dodger town was was amazing it was amazing that you know guys from Rookie ball all the way you know to to Major League because everybody the old Dodger town so that that kind of helped also too but you know I like the process you know you know sign as a kid 17 years old yeah um it was awesome it was awesome we all so you know as we all know Paul skin made his debut the other night he was originally a catcher you were originally a catcher Bryce Harper so on there’s so many people players in the big leagues now that we’ve seen transition from that role you specifically transitioning from a catcher to a relief pitcher whose idea was that originally uh that idea I think you know the Dodgers have that I think de Watson Logan white you know it was a lot of a lot of people involved in that you know see that I have a great you know great arm yeah um and I know the John want me to be a pitcher you know already but he just gave me that chance to you know see if my hitting was coming around and yeah PR to him man um I didn’t want to do it first I was going to say were you hesitant to do it yeah no I told him like till today I told him I’m like what what what was I thinking you know I told him like no home like I want to release like I don’t want to be here and you know I still want to give a try all team as a catcher you know and then he dropped that it’s like no I’m gonna suspense you so you gotta I’m all right hold that thought for a second let me go just talk to my my mom and dad my brothers and you know my dad told me that son that I always want to see you as a pitcher and that what kind of you know help me through it and I’m like all right I’m going to give it a try and you know the John sent me to I was there at the triple at that time filling in for AJ Ellis I remember for a couple of weeks and then I went back to ha and start learning how to pitch with Charlie huff and Charlie Huff get credit to him he he saw I think he might saw that I wasn’t unhappy young kid you know tried to do something that I didn’t want to do but yeah he bring that joy that fun and Franklin stop also too you know as a hitting coach at that time you know we was living on the same um apartment complex that every time he’s like hey hey kid like 11 o’clock I’m leaving the ballpark and if you want to ride let’s go and take a ride short enough you know he’s talked into me about pitching giving a try and then when I get to the ball part with Charlie hug you know he’s having pictures of Nolan Ryan and all these other good pitchers kind of to teach me how to pitch you know and I had a fun I had a blast doing it I had a blast doing it and I throw my first Bullpen I remember and then my second Bullpen dijan was there because that year I’m not supposed to pitch that year I supposed to go to instructional league and pitch in the game I just have to learn rest of the way there with Charlie huff and djon S Bullpen he like no let’s put him in livep next thing blowing that fast ball by everybody and he’s like no put him against our best hitter do the same thing and then next thing you know I was in the game um against Lake elnor you know in high throw my first outing 10 pitches two strikeouts and from there I never look back it was it was it was Unreal I mean I got protected on a 40 man with only 11 Innings you know 40 man roster they knew immediately they had they knew immediately they had something knew immediately there was something there that’s cool yeah it was cool it was cool so you know I gotta get credit to them I got to get credit to and um Logan also to send me to fall league that year you know because there was a discussion in term with them should they protect me on the 4 man or not and they just sent me to fall league like let him go to fall league and you know because we might lose him anyway yeah the story that I get now from them you know of what they tell me about the stories how how crazy it was and went to League Dominate and next thing you know I was in the 40 man and then probably throw like what 40 Innings only in my my I was in the big leeks so it was it was great story man great story well how much did it help you especially early on you’ve been you’ve been a pitcher for a long long time now but early on how much did it help you you know a catcher is the hardest position on the field you have to control the game you have to control a pitching staff how much did being a catcher at first help you trans I to the pitcher roll it helped me a lot it helped me a lot because the thing is you learn a lot of characteristic on your pitching staff and know what to do in situations and you just learn your pitching staff and learn how to read swings you know as a catcher I used to pay attention a lot of reading swings of what guys are looking for and that helped me a lot and I think what really helped me also too is that but it’s like all right I’m gon to do this pitching you know I didn’t hit well nobody’s going to hit you know that’s the other thing that I put that you know carry that anger that I couldn’t make it as a catcher well nobody’s gonna hit either so you know it’s just that anger towards it and also re swings and didn’t know that I have a god-given pitch was that natural cutter you know that all plays in and you know it is what is who I am today i’ I’ve always wondered did it you a very like iconic and and rare way that you come set with all the movements you have with your arm and with your leg and and your shoulder and everything yeah I’ve always been interested in how how did you get to that was that something that started very early on when you transitioned or is it something that you just felt more comfortable with as you started pitching and then gravitated more and more towards that how did that all come to be I think that happened more like um in 2021 I started having that more because it’s one thing that I always have a problem that my hip is not close enough and you know I lose command I lose vlo um I look I look I lost the characteristic of my cutter and I’m flying open to early so when you see me like kind of shake a little bit more it’s just I’m try to like lock my hips close and then make sure I just push through the catcher and keep my hip closed and have that direction to go to the home plate to make me stay more consistently that’s that’s that’s why I kind of bring it more now yeah um it’s a thing that I always have a problem that you know I’m flying open too early yeah you know and then my cut is going to get hit you know and when my cutter is not good it’s a very hitable pitch when my cutter is you know on track it’s very hard to the hitters so um and plus everybody know what I’m gonna throw majority of the time so you know I gotta make sure everything that I’m doing so I can stay close and have a better direction and you know stay through the ground and you know deliver that pitch so that’s a thing that developed you know more at the end you’ve had you’ve had a chance throughout your career to play for two of the most iconic franchises in all of baseball two of the oldest stadiums you got Dodgers Stadium fway Park I mean how awesome one has it been to be able to play for such historic franchises in your career but it I’m also interested specifically in those two stadiums like how are they similar how are they different what’s the atmosphere like there but I I guess first how awesome to be able to play majority of your career for the Dodgers and Dodgers stadium and then be able to at this point later on in your career play at finway Park where all that history is as well you know starting off with the Dodgers is it’s a blessing you know um when you talk about do the Dodgers you’re talking about Jackie Robertson just open up doors for all of us you know um not only you know black people but all of us like around the world come and play the game and it changed whole lifestyle so you know that’s the one unique thing about the Dodgers you know and La man La is nothing it’s no comparison like it’s hard to compare you know Boston and LA but La the vibe in La it’s it’s unbelievable like coming in I remember when I was come with California love my wel song how the F be you know rocking it’s it’s intense it’s intense and it’s a great organization play and I’m glad that I have majority of my time there and such a historic you know franchise and Fenway man I mean Fenway is it’s unbelievable like every day I’m waking up like I hope I pitch tonight you know like that’s a a historic ballpark to one of my favorites so far and um it’s I’m glad that I play for both of those teams which is the do in Boston and also my my homegrown like my hometown like you know I grown up being a brav fan I’m glad that I played for one year with the brav also too but yeah you know pitching Dodger State I will say the three ball Parts my three favorite Stadium to pitches it’s it’s the dodg stadium Fenway and Wrigley Field those are my three spots that I love pitching in such a great historic ballparks you mentioned Jackie Robinson and how he not only opened doors for for black people to play in Major League baseball but for people all around the world and it really just makes me think like how special it is you know every one day A Year everyone wears number 42 on their backs but for for you to be able to do that in a Dodgers uniform in La I mean that just it just means more in a Dodgers uniform and had to have been so special for you to wear that number on your back I mean how how cool is that to wear a number 42 uh Dodgers uniform and pitch in it man it’s it’s it’s unbelievable um that feeling you I probably would not feel it no more like on Jackie Robinson day is I think it’s a feeling that only when you wear that uniform yeah you know how much it feel it means to you and how much it is you know like God you wearing the Dodgers you know yeah that’s 42 in your back I remember I used to always tell L Rosen like why not we not wearing that that Brooklyn hat like that yeah be I always say that even that I’m not playing with the Dodgers no more I always say the LA Dodgers should wear that Brooklyn hat on 42 days you know just that Brooking uniform you know representing Jackie Robinson I mean it’s it’s phenomenal man I mean that that that feeling I will never get it back no more yeah wear other uniform but still it’s still a great feeling you remember what Jackie did for all of us how he changed the world and it’s still a special day but the feeling you have wearing the uniform you’re not yeah I probably will not feel it no more in any other uniforms you spent most of your the majority of your career has was spent there in Los Angeles what was it like for the first time going back to Dodger Stadium as a visitor as an opponent man um emotional to be honest with you it feels so weird that I have to make a right turn not a left turn in the elevator um I have to go to the first b side um the fans was great you know I got I got a standing ovation um when they did a little ceremony for me it was great but it was it was it was it was tough I mean you talk about spending you know there’s a team that signed me that’s a team that convert me did everything you know from a boy become a man and you know married with four kids and all that stuff I experienced branding that uniform so yeah um winning Championship with them so yeah I mean it was it was it was a little tough in the beginning but then hey once the game start you know it’s crazy the fans I remember the fans give me that setation but when I came in the N it’s like oh man like all I hear is booze I’m like get it I respect it that’s all Al is sometime hey he’s gonna come in try to close the game and you know so um yeah but it’s it’s still fun I’m looking forward to you know go there again this year yeah starting allar yeah after Allstar break we starting there and it’s it’s no better place to pitch than the Dodgers Stadium so it it will be my number one Stadium to pitch in there’s only a few people in the world that will ever be able to to answer this question but what is it like to have the alltime saves record for such a storyed organization and to be considered the greatest closer in the history of the Dodgers organization you know um it feel great sometimes you know I still didn’t put my time and think about it you know because I still want to feel like I want to prove myself wrong yeah that I do much more but if I have to look back man you know it’s awesome you know it’s awesome to see that I had 350 saves there yeah know you was hoping to get more save there you know get to 400 500 in one uniform but yeah you know you understand the business that you know we go our different ways and I’m happy where I’m at now and um but yeah if I have to look back and say that I’m an all-time safe leader in in the Lai Dodgers uniform you know it’s it can’t be better than that you know like my name will be there you know till like someone knock that that that record down you know it will be there you know if you look up the LA Dodgers who have the time safe leader my name is on it it’s it’s so so real a kid that come from Pure out hitting the ball my my parents wall you know make that wall dirty you know with a tennis ball and even with the old baseballs and um now that I’m in the big leagues I never thought I never thought this you know so um I’m grateful for that and yeah it’s just it’s awesome to have such kind of accompl accomplishment in in one of the historic um franchise in probably in sports you know um yeah it’s awesome that’s incredible man you should that that’s a really cool thing to have and uh that’s really really cool to to hear you talk about as well and now you’re with a Boston Red Sox team that this young rotation is currently top three in all of baseball I mean yeah what can you say about this young rotation and what they’re doing out there in Boston you know I gotta get credit to you know everybody you know from from Bailey to to to to um AC to all the way up to brlo so um they spent time on this they spent time on this to you know build a better system for us to succeed and um it’s unbelievable watching all these guys that you know have their challenges last year and now this year you know it’s make that quick turnover and having such a success and also us being hurt you know like down ver went down B went down O’Neal for a little while yeah O’Neal for a while you know we lost you know story so it’s a lot of things that happen but you still see us keep you know stay above you know and it’s unbelievable man I’m I’m having a blast watching these guys see and you know the mess is going to be pitch pitch pitch we keep pitching you know sure enough the hitting is going to be more consistent and we just got to give our hitters chance to win ball games and I think we’ll be in good shape what is you mentioned the the formula and the blueprint that bayy and and Alex cor have sort of created there what I mean in a nutshell what would you say that is because from an outside it appears that Andrew Bailey comes in and this young rotation that I think many people from the outside were saying well the Red Sox aren’t going to be very good this year but you guys have just pitched your asses off this year it feels like from the outside a lot of these young arms just aren’t afraid to pitch off of their off speed and throwing a lot of offs speed pitches and I don’t know if that’s something that he’s preaching or what it is but he has certainly changed the culture there in Boston with how uh how this pitching staff is going about their business I think I think it’s just develop of um see what what is your best pitch you know like I think meeting with all those pitchers and see what their strength is and kind of develop a secondary pitches to kind of protect helping them with their strength so if I’m seeing how the game is going lately it’s like they develop a lot of guys even with our bullan with Bernardino and all them like Bernardino developed a great cutter you know um wilock a great Sinker and you know um so I think is knowing what their strength is and kind of like help them develop the secondary better and also the information of what we getting you know to face the other opponent you know sometimes too much information will hurt you also to that crowded your mindset for you to go do what you have to do and know what you have to do for um to succeed yeah I think they give you just enough information and man I think you gotta give credit to them of how they’ve been putting this thing together at the development side of it absolutely uh KY I got a I got a few fun questions for you before we before we finish up here first of which being you have been an Allstar four times throughout your career most recently last season do you have a favorite moment from your All-Star Game appearances favorite moment from All-Star Game of oh man um I will say 2017 when I bought actually you know game like I kind of don’t know what I was thinking and I feel so embarrassing that I and then I punch out the next two hitters I think I that yeah yeah that was that was crazy I’m like you know what it’s embarrassing I’m just gonna throw all Cutters and I was so Ed up thr 96 Carters and so yeah I gotta say 2017 I remember that I remember seeing you were throwing Cutters and they were all flashing up red and it’s like damn kley kenley’s feeling it today yeah I’m feeling it yeah was I think it was more embarrassing by B like I’m like what how how are you GNA bed in the All-Star Game this you probably you probably hold one of only a few bucks that have ever happened in a MLB allstar game yeah so I think I what’s more embarrassing I’m like I gotta get out of here and I’m angry and I’m freaking letting it go but it was fun um you have I know your answer for your most favorite you said Dodger Stadium will always hold you know such a place in your heart and that’s your favorite place to to go pitch but on the contrast of that when you’re traveling around the League what is your least favorite Stadium to play in Oakland Athletics is yeah so yeah that’s my least place to go yeah that’s 99% 99% of the answers I get are o but you only what this might be the last year of us so you never have to go there again you never know yeah how did you end up uh how did you end up settling on the number 74 uh 74 um the story is long but I’m going to give you a quick story is you know my parents you know that’s my parents that’s the house they’re growing up in number 74 and a lot of things happened you know in the past with my mom and dad my dad used to be a construction and one of the companies Su my dad and you know then my parents have to go refine them um the house to get more money to pay who have to pay like you know getting Su and then my dad got um a stroke from high blood pressure couldn’t work no more and then you know we all tried to help you know all I had three brothers we all tried to help our parents to just hold on to the house you know and uh I remember um they about to lose the house in 2009 and you know I was a catcher at that time and they switched me as a pitcher couldn’t see the light you know we just lost the light yeah like how we going to get out of this and next thing you know I got protected on 40 man um then my mom got a stroke Like You Know She’s suffering diabetes she couldn’t work no more like okay it’s getting even worse and I when I got protected in the 40 man that kind of saved them a little bit you know I was sending on money home for them you know for them to survive you know paying the house off and I remember went to um January in 2010 we went to um you know those things that you do winter I forgot the name of it that all the prospect go to Dodger Stadium and you know you do a little touring yeah and Mitch bull put in my locker I saw 74 I’m like wow and I told Mitch I’m like you know what don’t change this number one day when I get called up and next thing you know um 2 and a half months later I got called up to the big leags and you know I saved my parents house and you know all my checks was going to pay their house off and I they surely did pay that house off that year and you know I rocked 74 and I’m grateful that have has a meaning for me that you know I saved my parents home ah what a story man that is yeah that is incredible that’s a really that’s a really cool story yeah yeah so yeah I won’t I won’t change that number so no you that number that number is not being changed um all right next one for you what is harder closing out the ninth inning or catching nine innings I think right now I think harder will be catching nine innings for sure hard you know I think I’m having so much fun closing ball games you know so it’s a natural thing for me is fun and um catching like you say if you do anything less than be Ed up to close the ball game you know it’s got to be tough for me mentally right now if you had continued catching and also figured out that you could pitch who would be the best two-way player in the game right now you or sh Otani oh no sh I mean I would probably say he would probably not have a better defense that I would have have but man I think this man is putting an all time offensively right now so it’s a blast watching him you know swing the B every night um I’m still Hey whenever anytime I have a chance I’m watching you know them play and I think it’s a great team and um I’m I’m enjoy watching show me the B yeah kley this last question is um submitted by my producer Taylor and it reads my producer Taylor is about to have a baby girl do you have any tips on being a girl dad oh man I think probably going to be more sensitive in life you know so um any tip is spend a majority thing is with with me with my two especially my my baby girl Kia right now just try to spend majority time with her you know make sure you know because you keep hearing it that you know whenever they get older and they have to move on and you know you want them to have a man like you right so who you are how you is with your wife and all that stuff so and teach te him learn teach him about life period so um especially for girls you know life I think for females even harder for us you know so they go through so many stuff that you can’t compare it man and woman yeah so I think us being there on this side and be their back backbone you know whenever they fall be there for them you know so um I think maybe that might be I’m still learning you know I’m still in my early God is about to be three so I’m still learning so I think just be that foundation for them for for for for for a girl I think is the best thing for them in life Kenley this has been a lot of fun man I appreciate it always been a fan of yours out on the field and watching you go about your business but now and even bigger fan of of you as a person and I just can’t thank you enough for hopping on here man I appreciate it I appreciate it thanks for having me of course good luck the rest of the year man all right thank you all right I just wanted to thank Kenley Janson again for joining me uh what an what an awesome conversation what an awesome guy it was really really special honestly hearing about that story of how he got the number 74 um hearing about going back and playing at Dodger Stadium as an opposing player I thought it was funny when he was like uh yeah was really hard for me to learn to turn right and not left anymore just all of it honestly I loved every bit of that conversation I hope you all did as well the alltime saves leader for the Los Angeles Dodgers and alltime great close and it was really fun to be able to to talk to him and get to know him as a person here on flip and bat so thank you all for listening make sure you’re subscribed wherever you listen to your podcast apple or Spotify uh you can also watch everything on Spotify you can watch on YouTube as well on the fliping bets YouTube channel and make sure you follow us on Tik Tok we’re getting closer and closer to 100,000 followers and uh yeah we put some really cool stuff out there so I appreciate you all for listening appreciate Kenley Jansen for joining and until next time my friends remember remember find your bat and flip it peace
Ben Verlander welcomes Boston Red Sox’s Kenley Jansen to Flippin’ Bats and they discuss transitioning from a catcher to a closer, signing out of Curaçao, and his Los Angeles Dodgers’ days. He also talks about the importance of Atlanta Braves legend Andruw Jones, how Curaçao produces so many MLB players, the Red Sox stellar rotation & more.
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Boston Red Sox’s Kenley Jansen on his Dodgers’ days, becoming a closer, Red Sox rotation & more
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