HOW many WINS is JOSH ALLEN WORTH? Do Buffalo Bills uniform numbers matter & Dan has a PROBLEM?

HOW many WINS is JOSH ALLEN WORTH? Do Buffalo Bills uniform numbers matter & Dan has a PROBLEM?

is he the guy is he not the guy I think Josh wins that was that was it I did it the new man me not interrupting my bad I don’t even remember what I’m take a time out take a lap I think we need uh like shock [Laughter] [Music] collars this is the Buffalo plus podcast brought to you by by Connors and Ferris all right welcome back to the Buffalo plus podcast presented by Connors and Ferris Mike catalana Dan Fates I am Jenna Cal please be sure to like comment subscribe and share the Buffalo plus Channel with whoever you love and is a Bills fan we would appreciate it all right today we’re talking a little bit of you know we’re in the off season things are chugging along toward training camp but some of the numbers the roster card the numbers that jump out what we expect from these players and just terms of their roster numbers looking a little weird uniform numbers is is not normally a topic this year it’s a topic is 100% a topic yeah yeah sometimes there’s like a guy changed and what’s this mean does it mean anything meaning it does what’s that guy think yeah and other times it’s like an odd number yes yes and I don’t mean even an odd I mean like oh that just doesn’t seem like it fits and we’re also going into this is the slower part of the offseason we I have vacations coming up if you have a good idea for a topic of a podcast or something like that that you want us to discuss we’ll do some more mailbag stuff and and those kind of things but comment in below if there’s something that you want us to talk about this offseason you think a good interesting podcast idea yeah topic for a podcast or just a segment or some questions you want us to answer put that in the comments below yeah we always appreciate that we’re also gonna talk about Josh Allen and uh who who’s that who’s that guy who’s that uh how many wins we think Josh Allen is worth you just the idea of Josh Allen the way he plays and you start out with Josh Allen and you say if he’s healthy how many how many no matter what you happens around him yeah just in a not no matter what but in general there’s a few guys that are guaranteed wins in the league momes you’re not even gonna nod to me for momes yeah no I it’s an interesting discussion because are we talking how many wins do we think the bills will have this year how many it’s worth or where does he rank among wins with other quarterbacks I think it’s like Josh gets you to this point yes right the Baseline Mahomes I mean Mahomes has set the Bas Josh has set that Baseline yes what his the double digit wins is right now is what he is division title not it’s not 100% on on him but you start out with a with a number in your mind you think you know where where would he be this could be you know like First Take and like get Up’s GNA take this topic yeah they’re gonna they’re gonna watch the channel here and then we’re gonna tune in on Tuesday Morning in July and they’re gonna be like how many wins is Josh Allen worth yeah that’s well I’m also shocked they didn’t steal the who is the most Alpha who are the most Alpha yeah that was a very good topic yeah and Jenna was very scared about it yeah I was because people people be wild on the internet and misconstrue misconstrue things well at least people don’t get upset when it comes to Josh Allen never or with our opinions on Josh Allen yes how about one one guy on the channel referred to us as homers I’m like dud you gota watch more I love when we get the comments where one comment’s like Dan’s a homer he all uses bills and the next one is Dan hates the bills he does is Bash them I’m like I love it the fact that the Polar Opposites that I can somehow manage to be on both ends of the spectrum yeah yeah yeah okay where do we want to start we want to start with Alan do we want to start yeah let’s start with it okay Dan you got it I was hoping you’d go first Michael okay I’ll go first this was your topic it was well actually no it was your topic yeah oh so why doesn’t Jenna start wow well I watched a YouTube video Jen I don’t want to interrupt you I just did you just did so I told Jenna this and I can think I can say this here I interrupted my wife this morning very rudely she was telling a very interesting thing we were talking about and I jumped right in and she said can I finish and I’m thinking well I’ve heard that before from her multiple times she was right and then I apologize because I am I’m going to pretend like this is Lent and I’m giving up interrupting for Lent how about that just for the offseason once we hit training once we train once we hit training camp we are back to interrupting Jenna and that could be a sponsored segment the best Interruption of the week you guys do love interrupting no I watched a YouTube video about why the 2024 bills are the most disrespected NFL team and they brought up obviously Josh Allen and one of the points they were talking about is that you know the Super Bowl is window is always going to be open with Josh Allen which I totally agree with and all these things and then it got me thinking about how many wins is Josh allenorth considering the fact that there is a lot of younger players on this roster a lot of guys that are projected to take a step forward this year and again a projection can be great it can also be uh you know too hopeful in moments so I kind of threw it out there of like yeah I am curious how many wins is Josh Allen worth but the reason I said it in the and when we were discussing podcast topics is because I’m curious what you guys think because I have in my head of how many games that Josh has been able to will the team good point to an incredible performance but sometimes they don’t always equate in wins I think of honestly 13 seconds as being a really great example of that um but I think for me when I think of Josh Allen and his ability I think it’s like it depends it I don’t know I think of double digit wins every year that is kind of what I equate a minimum of Josh Allen and his ability to win games okay I the way I took it was if I looked at this team and just said how bad could they be if Josh Allen plays and he’s healthy what’s the the basement for me on the way he plays and and I have automatically seven or eight corre that’s the way I look at it’s like yeah that’s Josh Allen I’m not even talking about him being Superstar yep I’m saying is I just think the way he plays with a with a okay NFL team and I think the bills are better than an team it’s seven or eight wins like you look and you go you know that you got to be a pretty bad team you rarely see an NFL team with an elite quarterback win you know five six seven games it just doesn’t happen very often there’s usually some other issues with a team so I look at him that way I think then you say the next step is he Wills them to a couple of wins with just something that he does during the game and that’s how we’ve gotten each year to a 10 11 win year I think the biggest thing for this team is I think they have changed a lot in the makeup of the team yep so the Comfort level in thinking yeah he’s got Bo in Hyde he’s got a healthy Von Miller he’s got this you know Stefon Diggs yeah makes you go okay maybe it’s gonna take a little more Josh to get to those numbers or maybe guys we haven’t seen are going to step up but when that guy takes the field I I’m I sto short of saying he’s going to make it individual guy a star if he’s not going to be a star but he’ll find he finds ways the guy does find ways even on a bad day to make make plays and win my not to be Devil’s Advocate because because I’m agreeing with that point but I think you’re right I think it’s around that seven to eight wins with lowlevel NFL quality receivers that are competent he can win seven or eight games healthy no matter what he does have games where he still is we joke around it’s the Josh Allen experience right he still has and it can all be in the same game we have seen the AR usually is we’ve seen the arc but I I think of games you I just think of some of the Jets games where he’s just looked off and the defense has done a pretty good job of keeping them in games it used to always be before Josh Allen got there it was the defense was so good for the longest time they needed competent quarterback play they have exceeded competent quarterback play they are now in the like you said if Mahomes is in a tier of his own Josh Allen is the headliner of the next tier yeah okay and I don’t think that’s a hot take with Mahomes in all of his accolades that’s where that’s where Allen needs to get to that’s not homerism that’s not hating on Josh Allen that’s just the truth of the matter he’s still still above Herz he’s still above he’s still above burrow he’s still above those guys but you’re right I think there are still some games where Josh will be bad Josh and will be rookie Josh and young Josh and the defense you have Milano and you have um Bernard Bernard making plays that you go that was the game Janet I was going to ask you this because I think there’s two ways of looking at no Josh on the field and it would be replacing with Mitchell trabis because he’s the backup not good right in terms of but but they signed Mitchell trabis to be the backup not to play for the season I think a better way to look at it would be pick a quarterback like a good NFL quarterback not a superstar Kirk Cousins yeah I think he’s I think he’s at you could take a Kirk Cousins level guy and say this Bills team or even last year’s Bills team I think he wins two or three more games than Kurt Cousins does yes and that’s that’s where you’re looking for the number it’s unfair to say Mitchell trabis quarterback this team for 17 games and how are they he’s not he is not designed this thing is not designed for Mitchell trabis designed that if he can play a couple of games if you need him yep and you get it so I’m looking at it from a good quarterback perspective where would where would they be I think Josh against and that’s a guy who gets paid a lot of money and has won a lot of games I think he’s two or three games ahead of a good NFL quarterback quarterback in this team like if D Dak Prescott was the quarterback of the bills I think it would be three wins less if if he were the one quarterback Allen yeah I think Josh is two wins better than most quarterbacks yeah I think there’s only five quarterbacks that are on the same level as him and some think that many and I think there are and that’s with including what do you say Mahomes yeah yeah and you would say burrow burrow you know it’s funny one year injured and all this stuff and he’s still Joe burrow and he’s been to a Super Bowl and he’s beaten the Chiefs so you got those things bur doesn’t a in a Burrow’s more methodical I agree with you so like burrow needs a Jamar Chase we’re g to see what what Josh needs with a number one guy that’s the big question that’s what we’ve talked about and we won’t he who is not spoken about anymore on this podcast who was working out in France this this week on his Stan digs that that was he who oh I’m sorry I thought you forgot the guy’s name yeah okay but again I think you’re also talking about um Houston’s quarterback that I’m drawing a blank on St St Str Stroud is he was a massive Factor in why Houston was who they were last year y you take a regular quarterback on that Texans team they’re not what they were last season now will stoud continue to ascend that’s to be determined that’s why but at this trajectory of where we are this offseason heading in I think I can put Stroud on not on Josh Allen’s level but on on the sense of he’s worth two or three wins more on Houston than if kurk cousins was on Houston yeah that’s yeah you know what I’m saying yeah yeah he’s more Dynamic he’s more atic all those who is the top five I mean I was thinking about that like in the NFC there’s some young I mean like everybody was excited for Jordan love he looked really good at the end of the year but it was like half of a season yep like the question is is he good Jared G pretty good football player Jared G would be another good comparison that’d be a really good comparison when you put him into Buffalo you’d win games he’s a good quarterback but how many do you win I like Jaylen Herz a lot took a step back last year there’s juri’s out on him this year to see how he does but I’m looking around and I’m like who’s the who’s the five who are who’s the five best I momes Allen burrow and then it’s funny it’s funny because you can play this game and you like are we are we first take no but I mean Josh is in this well here’s a fun comparison like also like the Browns like how much is Deshawn Watson really worth because somebody else came in yeah yeah like that’s that’s where my mind goes Matt Stafford’s a fun comparison yeah in the sense of when he’s on the field what he’s worth a healthy Matt Stafford is very valuable yeah is very valuable to a Shawn McVey offense they’ve added a running game and all those things but where’s Gino Smith like these are we again I’m not saying they’re on the same platform I’m saying take Gino put him in Buffalo what is he worth those kind of comparisons and we probably should oh Lamar yeah he’s top five he’s got to be top five I’m just thinking sometimes in our minds we go yeah I need to Browns it’s the NFL off season and our bra is not top five nope nope burrow I certainly don’t have um Trevor Lawrence in there even though he got paid nobody on the Colts Raiders Broncos Aaron Rogers I mean we don’t know what he’s got um Brock pie got to a Super Bowl but I don’t think people think of him as an elite player correct no Dak put up numbers gof dak’s an interesting one Dak is Baker is an interesting one in terms of coming no Baker played really well last year no I know that’s what I’m saying is he’s the good quarterback put him in Buffalo Bills win three more games easily I take it back I take back what I said Dan was wrong I think there’s that tier with Josh MH and it’s burrow and and it’s Lamar and it’s some of those guys right that tier and then there’s drop off where it’s like are they the guy right and and they’re a teams yes this is a little first takey I’m just saying okay but but here’s another prime one for you Justin Herbert I was just gonna say where does he stack up Talent he’s a talent he’s but does your we’ve been waiting Josh took the steps to willing teams to Victory Herbert hasn’t done that now Herbert has also had banged up wide receivers bad offense like bad coaching bad coaching bad defense so like Herbert’s kind of been in one of those boats where it’s they’ve gotten boat raced a lot and Herbert hasn’t lived up to the conversations another guy that’s gotten paid for everybody also Josh Allen is not the 10th highest paid quarterback for for so I can’t wait okay but I hate I no no I know what you’re gonna say okay what are you gonna say when are all these teams gonna have to go through transition years because everybody’s getting paid and every Oh okay that’s team and all these teams have spent $300 million this year these contracts are all going to get reworked momes is now underpaid yeah all be reworked the way s ke isn’t real I’m done oh God I thought you were GNA say how like it looks like the Bill’s got a deal on Josh Allen it’s like this is just how it works in the leag and how time works and they’ll redo him again he’ll get a big extra money absolutely when people like extend I can’t believe deal the bills got on Josh Allen it’s like no that was also a couple years ago in the NFL you’re always going for unprecedented money and as time goes on that number gets bigger and that’s how it works and it’s also pay players it’s better to bet on players before they they ascend yes and this is where and I love watching it but this is where I don’t understand a thing that Dallas Cowboys are doing none Michael Parson should be signed CD lamb maybe even more so than Dak Prescott think Dak Prescott play it out God bless him if some other team wants to give him $60 million a year I mean he’s he’s got to play very very well this year for another team teams are gonna pay somebody’s gonna pay him because they need quarterbacks but if you’re Dallas you’re like no you should be taking care of SE because they waited the Eagles redid Devonte Smith and AJ Brown before the latest contract came out which was Justin Jefferson who should set the market correct and now we’ll see what happens with auk like but CD lamb is a hell of a player but all those guys got more Buffalo they got more expensive I know all those guys got more expensive because somebody else gets paid and that guy gets to say to is sitting here going I’m gonna make bank now will the dolphins be the one that pays that backs up the Brinks truck for him that’s to be determined I think he’s in another case like like Dak is let Dak go see see what somebody will pay Dak on the open market yeah it’s so you’re you’re so terrified of not having a guy that you end up overpaying for a guy that is not the guy do you think the Dolphins truly belied to is the guy I think they really want TOA to be it I I agree and that’s that’s hell yeah that is hell and what I was going to say to you to to go back and maybe wrap up this part of it is you said about Josh and all that’s the one thing that the bills have with this they know he’s the guy they yes he is the guy in every way for this franchise so that could be a good way to look at it what teams are 100% comfortable it’s their guy it’s their guy the three we have at the top the three we have at the top I think Baltimore now has made that decision on Lamar yes and listen but even then at some point you’re like oh well they they let him sit out there like that would never have happened with Josh but now they’ve paid them so at least for now but I’d say around the league like it’s it’s it’s like we love you for these three years and then we’ll see if we still love you yeah because it’s interesting so what you you are just pounding down what is that it’s just I’m having a are they a sponsor no they’re not no not yet yet I don’t even really like this one it was just work vending machine um yeah but if you’re a Bills fan you want you want the Dolphins to think that Tu is the guy I Floria was just talking on a podcast that he wants something that starts with a five yeah they all do like Dak is talking about six same Dak is talking about a six like six 60 million a year 60 damn like there is a point for a team where they go that is and look they not saying they have Tre Lance that they picked up you have a draft pick to I’m gonna tell you something like that kind of team could say let’s see what we got in this guy at some point but we started out with Josh I think he is it’s just so strange for me to think that the bills have that guy and they had it with Jim and they Frank Reich who everybody loved who was a perfect backup Frank Reich was not going to play 16 games for you correct but he could jump in there and play which is what you needed was it worth it do you think for Bill like for Bill’s fans do you think it was worth the wait of going from gym and having all that bad QB play to get joshp that’s a whole different pod you’re just this is just how my brain works you’re a topic I don’t answer questions I ask them I’ll put it to this lights the match and then just backs away she’s like I don’t know guys I’ll put it to you this way the answer is is yes because he already had to go through the way but if you said after Josh you went to wait another 20 years you’re like it could be Green Bay they just keep piling them in there yeah I mean that’s Pittsburgh Penguins in the NHL yeah they just have great player Le Crosby yeah yeah yeah but I just oh yeah just was curious yeah I forgot about him yeah um no I just curious because so many teams are in that Purgatory of like is he the guy is he not the guy I think Josh wins was it that was it I did it the new man me not interrupting my bad I don’t even remember what take a time out take a lap I think we need uh like shock collars it’s it’s kind of funny because sometimes you guys have no idea what you’re doing I know you just get so excited my favorite thing is sometimes people like oh Jenny you don’t talk enough but you guys talk so long that you take all the points that I’m going to say so by the time it goes to me I’m like they said everything I was going to say so there’s nothing to say here and I know you you guys are both GNA not talk this is great podcasting by the way I have already apologized once today for interrupting that was to to Jenny so I’ve I’ve been good today you have been on the podcast this is hard though I think Josh is worth eight and I think the bills defense can win three to four that’s okay so that’s why I had 10 because I thought yeah including the bills defense you get two out of that and then Josh yeah eight I also know people just love us interrupting you it’s their favorite thing yeah I’m sure they just love it you see this is what this is what you guys talk yeah how come whenever I want to talk you want to talk and then as soon as I am like okay you guys you don’t want to talk the only thing I will say in my mind this is terrible podcast in my mind what I have to say next is fascinating yeah usually to only you I know I’m just gonna get up and leave again oh that’s so good just get up and go all right let’s you don’t get to be a Hall of Famer without cutting some people off exactly yeah you’re well versed all right let’s talk a little bit about yeah like the player uniform numbers how weird stuff is I the 14 going from Diggs to chase Claypool is just weird to me considering how big of a guy Chase Claypool is it’s just very bizarre you mean physically how big he is yeah physically okay I just want to know though there’s a certain Vibe with a number yes and number 14 didn’t mean anything to me till Diggs was wearing it correct so now you look at on the field I know he’s a bigger guy and all the but it’s still 14 catching passes uh I don’t think Chase clayo cares at all about that no I think so either it’s like oh it’s Di’s number cool like whatever yeah I mean he’s accomplished very little in the league look good at camp and all that Dan it is kind of odd though seeing I know he’s bigger but it’s still a 14 and Bill’s uniform catching from Josh Allen and it’s not Diggs yeah I got one that’s even weirder to me and this was Jenna we had talked about it on one of the other maybe it was the mini camp ones that we did the Recaps of having to look down and see who’s who right ker is the one that that yeah that blows my brain because not only that it’s it’s a defensive number now now seeing single digits as defense is the one that’s very jarring to me especially because I know you had I think you had said some you had texted us some of the other guys that had worn five and the first number five that I thought of was Matt Barkley right no I went Trent Edwards oh yeah okay I instantly went Trent now In fairness to the guys now most of the time when you see some of these singled digigit numbers back in the way it was they were usually quarterbacks or kickers or punters because that’s who used those numbers a lot but they also wore a lot of the defensive guys wore that in college yes because that was so like you saw a guy in college and you got used to their number or whatever and then all of a sudden it was like oh they can’t wear that number now I look at a guy like Kier changing his number I’m making too much of this no I think I think it’s a show of confidence I’m with you I think it’s I think it’s a fresh start I think it’s a new number and it’s a fresh start I think it’s a clean slate I don’t think it’s the new confidence why do you say that well just because you’re saying I want yes it gets the Clean Slate but it’s also like this is the 2024 Kyer and and in terms of like but a singled digigit number honestly just makes you to me on defense it makes you look different on the field it just it’s Taran Johnson taking that seven took a little while now I just see him as a number seven because the guy’s always making plays like you got to make plays but it just it seems like I’m not GNA say it’s a look at me number but when you make a change like if you change from 33 to 31 that doesn’t mean as much to me but it pops it pops it pops it’s like players when they wear black cleats they’re slower if you wear black basketball shoes you are slower yeah like it’s just you’re you’re faster and white let me tell you I wore white sneakers didn’t make me any faster but looks faster when I see wide receiver with black cleats they are they better be real fast I feel like then it’s why you would wear the black cleats yeah then but again you got to be really fast really fast or your feet do like Justin Jefferson can wear black cleats yeah because it’s like oh he can wear any number he wants correct he’s gonna run by you also true all right any other numbers oh there was some good ones in there I started out if we go from low to high I mean like oh yeah Keon I yeah yeah Gabe Davis is now G to be zero in uh Jacksonville the jok’s right itself you’re not taking the bait how many catches will we have this year zero I think with Keon it’s kind of cool um to take zero but it does bring even more attention to you as a player the bills I mean they weren’t allowed to wear them before nah Hines had will always have the Patriots game yes um but otherwise you know the zero when he wore the zero um is what you know it it just didn’t do anything in terms of the uniform number um but in terms of Keon I find that kind of like you know it’s not quite like a hockey guy saying I want to wear 93 or 99 yeah can’t wear 99 like you that’s a really bad idea but it’s sort of interesting that a young guy would wear zero yeah I could see yeah I think he has conf it takes confidence I think we’ve seen though that he does not lack confidence but there are so many like if a player came in and War 95 I would just instantly I think Bryce pop is that a joke Bryce pop was a pass rusher for the bills actually came in as a free agent and had like 16 sacks one year who but I would instantly think of Kyle Williams like just seeing the number I just think Kyle Williams that’s like 55 is always to me Jerry Hughes you and Jerry Hughes but Jerry switched his number right what was Jerry he switched his number with the bills I’m trying to remember the numbers uh you know like in terms of um other numbers that we were looking at I think of numbers that just don’t help the play player themselves I think the worst number in the NFL and I said this to Jenna is 19 Isiah Mackenzie yeah it’s not a good number and then he changed to six right now who has 19 I see you have the list hamler KJ hamler yeah he needs a single digit number small and fast yeah there’s also Samuel wearing number one right that works sandel Sanders was a perfect number one it just worked for him and I think the same thing’s going to happen with Samuel I think it’s a good number for him uh you don’t you got no no no no I I agree I was just trying to think of like players that are synonymous with a number okay so Brady and 12 yeah you like a lot of quarterbacks at 12 and now Brady has you know TB 12 and everything yeah 11 is a weird number for the bills now that’s Mitchell Travis bledo yeah bledo uh also is that Norwood Scott Norwood yeah it was also Rob Johnson Rob Johnson not a good number I remember when other guys took 11 I’m like 11 but bledo did and bledo was a pro he had one good year with the bills yeah he’s a pro though very good quarterback Rob Rob Norwood great guy missed the field goal but and 13 Stevie Johnson yep yes now it’s it’s um what um what’ss Matt Collins with 13 is also Kelvin Benjamin it’s funny G Davis this is like what we would do around like college drinking like you’re pregaming and you’re just like rattling off numbers name random NFL players when a guy chooses the number exactly when a guy chooses the number Justin Zimmer Justin Zimmer I had on there because1 it’s the wrestler stevon has it yes Justin Zimmer that’s that’s for the indust script guy just a guy and if he makes the team usually a guy like Justin Zimmer might 61’s you’re the backup center at 61 yeah yeah you’re not a guy making they always talk about it in uh for spring training at baseball if your numbers add up to over something yeah it’s pretty much if you’re you know like when you see number 79 come in a baseball game and spring training you’re like he ain’t making the team yes like that’s not that’s just that works but I always find it interesting like there’s who’s wearing 32 this year oh um uh Kiren Brown okay if he’s going to be around you know it’s just like I mean 3 was OJ and then who did I I told you one guy wore it soris Perry yeah wore it for a year like it’s weird for a bills guy to wear 32 they they have not given that number out very often that’s true J passed away this year so that was a th those are the ones I see in 83 there’s nobody that’s worn 34 I do not believe and then they retired Thurman but it was before they retired it and then they gave it to like tight ends and all 83 83 is probably more of a tight end yeah it’s Trey McKinny yeah but these are guys if they make you know but you’re right though because you have also on here Mike Edwards right yeah oh yeah Mike Ed Mike I think Mike Edwards is an interesting one like that’s tough to go right into taking the number he took 21 no time to breathe it’s po that’s poer yeah that is very and I brought up one other one and it won’t change but and it hasn’t changed this year but it’s Knox and concade oh 88 86 mhm it’s annoying they catch DK DK 88 how many times have you sitting there going oh it’s nox no it was oh it was so I don’t know neither of them are changing their numbers I guess we just have to look a little closer sometimes all right regardless of position what number would you want to be honestly it’d be 13 really I’m born on the 13th and I worked at Channel 13 forever I love that so it’ be 13 maybe you could rewrite the history yeah or the recent history what about you I had uh when I went to play baseball I was always I was three in baseball and I was four in hockey Babe Ruth yeah oh my God totally a lot of people thought that EXA power yeah that’s it but it was funny I always joke around the fact of my number in college was 41 really and it was when I was one of the first players that committed to play at fonia what whatever that meant division three B big we we LED with it on the I say now it be like six Instagram posts and I’d have a chain and stuff like that it’d have to be all over but I go it was funny because you go to like like you pass out the jerseys right and our freshman incoming class was so big and but our coach said when I committed like you’re the first player that committed where you get to pick your number first I was like sweet this is kind of cool I’m gonna get to pick my number everybody picked their number everybody there was no jerseys left and there was there was one Jersey left and it was number 39 for a baseball number who is somebody I’m trying to think maybe somebody Yankees Dave Winfield wore 39 Oh could have been yeah something like that and I was like coach is like well you’ll be 3 I was like 39 may be the most ugly unless you’re a hockey goalie 39 is a brutal number so I got to make a Jersey oh wow so coach was like you get to pick whatever number you want so then it was like you go like really crazy do you be like 90 like what do you be at so I picked 41 cuz I was full Time Saver sure yeah but it was like four I was just like oh 41 like that that just worked for my number oh okay yeah but then I didn’t want to change it because you got all the gear and everything was 41 and then like four opened up the next year but I was like well and the merchandise sales had to be huge the nil deals all of it but yeah so it was like I was like 41’s my number so whenever I see somebody with 41 I’m like oh aren’t you weren’t you 17 I was 17 yeah yeah I mean that was always my sister was seven and I’m I’m the younger sister so I CH I chose 17 well I didn’t say it like that I’m just saying she was wearing seven so I wore 17 I also was 29 too you also were here before Josh Allen I was so I have the pictures to prove it too I do but yeah so what number would you would you say that 41 I’d probably be four or 41 that’s like backup fullback 41 oh yeah that’s Reggie Gilling yeah oh yeah yeah I do think you will it will take a moment especially at camp and all but when you see the guys with their helmets office it’s just running out there on the field you are right the Diggs one is interesting because the guy is a foot taller not quite but but the Mike Edwards One’s Gonna Be 21 playing safety or what if somebody takes 23 it’s n yeah 95 55 I 95 KY Williams 55 Jerry Hughes 21 Jordan puyer 23 Micah Hyde like those are like yeah and V went back to 73 B went back to 40 which I don’t think is a great defensive number no but he wore that at Texas A&M I believe so 27 didn’t somebody at Camp had it but I don’t think that guy’s somebody was wearing 20 I think it was a triy out triy out number I think yeah that’s like wear that but don’t show anybody guy just left yeah that guy probably didn’t want 27 like a yeah yeah they’re like don’t worry you’re not going to have don’t don’t worry about it it won’t be on for long um you know what comment in what number you would be I always find that super interesting because what position would you have been Jenna what do I think I would have been yeah oh man I feel like we’ve discussed this I could see myself being like a tight end or a quarterback quarter I’m tall for like I’m tall you don’t think wide receiver I don’t think I’m fast enough what about you free safety yeah that’s what I was going to say for me too is because I ain’t playing corner no no it’s like it’s like when I play basketball like I could play defense shooter I was a shooter I could play defense but I was playing against this guy very quick story he was a star player and I got in the game garden and I’m like are you freaking kidding me this kid was gonna he actually tried out for the bills too he played at Notre Dame oh W he was going to Notre Dame he went to North Carolina played two sports for a while this guy anyhow I’m trying to guard him in the game and I kept him from scoring I kept him from scoring not for for like the eight minutes I guarded him but that was only because I gave the dude so much room he probably had nine assists in the eight minutes I was guarding him but I was like damn where he ain’t getting behind me and he’s sitting there going go but I didn’t want to get I didn’t want to be you know yeah the our version of getting posterized is when he makes the layup on you and I’m like nope Mike’s in a defensive stance hoers is just no you’re you like slap the floor yeah yeah you didn’t do that then but yeah anyhow safety because then you’re always like take you can get deep and get deep nothing over the back nothing over the top I’ll push him out of bounds that’s it oh my gosh and you’re a quarterback well no I I feel like more tight end I don’t know what do you think I’d say wide say wide receiver yeah yeah really tall long arms height can’t teach height actually the way this season is they may be looking for some help just hey God Justin shorter yeah we did have a break there was one episode we missed one yeah we’re back on track and Justin is 18 right yes Oh I thought you been his AG no he’s 18 number 18 yeah yeah there’s another guy that looks like him and it’s Shavers he’s a little bigger something three again the roster cards are really utilized MBs is 81 81 yep Terrell Owens when he was here that’s his number that is yeah okay I’m trying to think who else see it’s funny how you guys go to numbers when I think numbers I think of it just the numbers just register with me with the old team 80 James Loft and you know that’s what I was saying about Kyle Williams’s 95 like there’s just certain players certain numbers that you’re like okay that oh nope it’s it’s that guy not that guy number 90 I think Shaq Lawson but so I have two right Phil Hansen’s so I think of oh I do not think of him I had because he was retired well before you were wasn’t Mario 90 oh yeah I think he was 0 I think Mario was 90 and I think Aaron schel yes very good player Aaron schoel W Daniels thank you was it Mario that wore the white contacts red red red red context he an interesting dude yeah those were spent a lot of money on cars he made a lot of money bills paid him a lot of did he sell his Porsche you know how whoever talks about selling their Porsche that’s wild yeah couldn’t be us rough day yeah rough day sold 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