Should prioritize keeping Donovan. Open up the rest of the guys to trades and get as much value as we can. Go back to basics, guys who get on base and build up new pitchers.
If the Cardinals were to lose all the players listed, their lineup could look something like…
C: Ivan Herrera/Pedro Pages
1B: Jordan Walker/Alec Burleson
2B: Thomas Saggese/Jose Fermin
SS: Masyn Winn
3B: ?? (Nolan Gorman would make sense here imo, maybe even Wetherholt, but obviously not to begin the season)
LF: Jordan Walker/Alec Burleson
CF: Mike Siani/Victor Scott
RF: Lars Nootbaar
SP1: Miles Mikolas
SP2: Andre Pallante
SP3: Steven Matz??
SP4: Michael McGreevy
SP5: Quinn Matthews
SP6: Drew Rom/Tink Hence/??
No idea who slots into the closer role. There would be no good choices. I think the only BP pitcher with above average stuff would be Roycroft and he was and up and down type player. The pitching is honestly laughable.
That’s provided we don’t get back MLers in these trades which we most assuredly would. Still, we’re looking at a bottom 5 roster and a total rebuild if the Cardinals move these pieces. At this time last season I would’ve been shocked to see the Cardinals in a total rebuild, but after the comments from the FO and Mo leaving next year I can actually see it. Tear it down, build up the player dev and get as much young talent as possible… Maybe it’s time?
I would not trade Gorman or Donovan, especially for Gorman as if they’re committed to a youth movement, getting rid of a young player like him with control at his lowest value doesn’t make a whole lot of sense (& Gorman was their top prospect not long ago)
Every other Cardinal on the list I can see being shopped. Hopefully with Chaim more involved in the front office, maybe we can get some decent prospects for them
Trading Donnie would be a mistake. He’s never going to cost you a ton. Might as well just keep him and resign him when the time comes.
Our vets on the trading block would be very good complimentary pieces on contending teams. This rebuild is necessary but man is it going to suck ass.
Brent Rooker all the way down at 31 seems nuts. He’s posted a 147 OPS+ over the last 2 years and isn’t a FA until 2028.
Lol literally the whole non-arbitration team.
This year is gonna suck. There’s no guarantee anything in the future is gonna be good either unless the development shake up actually works out.
You can’t move Brendan Donovan unless you are really married to tearing it down to the studs. Losing him and edman is a bridge too far for me lol but I’d be happy to wash hands of everybody else listed.
Think we can get Tommy back from the Dodgers for Arenado?
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Posting here because the Cardinals are heavily represented on this list with the following players listed:
2. Ryan Helsley
3. Erick Fedde
10. Nolan Arenado
11. Sonny Gray
12. Wilson Contreras
20. Brendan Donovan
21. Nolan Gorman
I was told Fedde had no value
Should prioritize keeping Donovan. Open up the rest of the guys to trades and get as much value as we can. Go back to basics, guys who get on base and build up new pitchers.
If the Cardinals were to lose all the players listed, their lineup could look something like…
C: Ivan Herrera/Pedro Pages
1B: Jordan Walker/Alec Burleson
2B: Thomas Saggese/Jose Fermin
SS: Masyn Winn
3B: ?? (Nolan Gorman would make sense here imo, maybe even Wetherholt, but obviously not to begin the season)
LF: Jordan Walker/Alec Burleson
CF: Mike Siani/Victor Scott
RF: Lars Nootbaar
SP1: Miles Mikolas
SP2: Andre Pallante
SP3: Steven Matz??
SP4: Michael McGreevy
SP5: Quinn Matthews
SP6: Drew Rom/Tink Hence/??
No idea who slots into the closer role. There would be no good choices. I think the only BP pitcher with above average stuff would be Roycroft and he was and up and down type player. The pitching is honestly laughable.
That’s provided we don’t get back MLers in these trades which we most assuredly would. Still, we’re looking at a bottom 5 roster and a total rebuild if the Cardinals move these pieces. At this time last season I would’ve been shocked to see the Cardinals in a total rebuild, but after the comments from the FO and Mo leaving next year I can actually see it. Tear it down, build up the player dev and get as much young talent as possible… Maybe it’s time?
I would not trade Gorman or Donovan, especially for Gorman as if they’re committed to a youth movement, getting rid of a young player like him with control at his lowest value doesn’t make a whole lot of sense (& Gorman was their top prospect not long ago)
Every other Cardinal on the list I can see being shopped. Hopefully with Chaim more involved in the front office, maybe we can get some decent prospects for them
Trading Donnie would be a mistake. He’s never going to cost you a ton. Might as well just keep him and resign him when the time comes.
Our vets on the trading block would be very good complimentary pieces on contending teams. This rebuild is necessary but man is it going to suck ass.
Brent Rooker all the way down at 31 seems nuts. He’s posted a 147 OPS+ over the last 2 years and isn’t a FA until 2028.
Lol literally the whole non-arbitration team.
This year is gonna suck. There’s no guarantee anything in the future is gonna be good either unless the development shake up actually works out.
You can’t move Brendan Donovan unless you are really married to tearing it down to the studs. Losing him and edman is a bridge too far for me lol but I’d be happy to wash hands of everybody else listed.
Think we can get Tommy back from the Dodgers for Arenado?