Yes, both. I don’t understand how anyone can argue against it unless you’re a dodger fan at this point
A cap is just a transfer of profits to billionaire owners though. I’m sure Fisher can use another $50mln, i guess.
No cap is probably one of the only things the Commish and the Player’s Assoc agree on. We’re not the customers; companies that buy ad space and corp season tickets/loges are the customers
is there some way to track how much owners spend versus how much they pocket
Maybe a floor, even in the minors when you see the conditions some of these guys live in.
Someone keeping track of the “yes” and “no”
Both
Yes
Both of em for sure.
No cap but for sure a floor, encourage these teams to be more competitive
I mean, maybe just place more rules on deferred payments…? There won’t be a cap but you can lock down the soft cap a little more by addressing the gray area of deferred payments. Everyone does it at some point but for the dodgers to have almost a billion total in deferred really highlights a flaw in the system. Idk if its an easy fix but would probably help alleviate some of the discourse and wouldn’t result in a full season strike by the players association…
A floor yes, I feel that if you’re gonna call yourself a MLB worthy team then you have an obligation to the community to be competitive. Otherwise just be a minor league city.
A cap, not only players but perhaps on tickets. I feel like supply and demand warrants tickets but also there should be a requirement for the games to at least be somewhat affordable for everyone.
Yes. They all make too much. I will watch pro sports, but they will never get another nickel from me.
Better broadcasting deals
Then
Better revenue share
Then
Salary floor
Then
Salary cap
Cap and floor
There’s really not a whole lot of evidence that buying championships works. Buying a spot in the postseason? Sure! But MLB has a hell of a lot more parity than other leagues that do have a cap.
The Dodgers won this year. If they win one or two more or like 3 out of the next five this should be a discussion. Right now it’s just fans being salty that Dodgers owners are willing to spend money and their owners aren’t.
I hate baseball cuz there is no salary cap and this is giving teams like LA and New York the ability to hog all the talent.
Ideally both. With revenue sharing small market teams make more by spending less. With a floor that extra money would go to veteran players. A cap would make the league more competitive overall.
Yes for both
Hot take – the issue isn’t a lack of a salary cap, it’s the insanely bad revenue share system
Both
Both.
I’ve said this before in the sub, but it’s so fucking tiring to see the same teams be successful over and over and over again. Dodgers, Yankees, Astros, whatever.
The leagues need to realize that there aren’t just four or five teams. There are 30. The richest owners keep getting away with buying all the talent
Both. A floor to make sure owners aren’t just milking the franchise dry and not putting up a respectable product and a cap to make sure parity exists within the league.
Watching the Mets, Dodgers and Yankees spend $400m per year disincentivizes owners in smaller markets from trying because they know they’re not competing for anything but a division title anyway.
Every team should be able to field a superstar or two. I’m not a big NBA fan but look at their rosters. Instances like the LeBron era Heat don’t exist without someone taking a pay cut for the betterment of the team. We see MLB players showing less and less loyalty to their teammates when they’re already seeing a lot of guys pulling 18-25m per year.
Cap it at 400m since salaries are inflating so much already and it won’t fuck over the vast majority of the league.
You need both, the disparity is crazy and just getting crazier.
How about zero deferment contracts?
Yeah, guys are getting payed too much for lackluster performances. Even in the 90s and even 00s guys were not making money like they do now. They should use that money to make the experience better for the fans, better stadiums, better food, cheaper tickets. Maybe I’m alone on this one
Cap and if anyone says otherwise they clearly are from large markets. It is not fair that the Dodgers can have Ohtani, Yamamoto, Snell, Betts, and Everyone else as well.
Absolutely there’s a reason most other major sports have it
All of the “no cap” takes that think they’re being pro-worker or something are ridiculous. A salary cap will not necessarily change the distribution of profits between players and owners. In fact, this can still be negotiated. All a salary cap will do is make it so every team, in every market, can compete instead of the current situation where you have at most 10 teams whose fans can expect their team to compete for a championship. The lack of a salary cap is what is killing this league.
Can’t have a cap without a floor. Yes 💯
Absolutely need a cap. It’s ridiculous at this point
Yes.
Yes to both. Nfl model is best
Yes, yes and yes.
Yes, they wonder why the NFL has passed them
Yes, the WS winners who got the biggest FA last season, got the top FA pitcher this season. Simply, even without deferred money they could sign two more top FAs and still make more money than most of the other teams.
Yes, of the four teams in the Championship series, 3 had the highest payrolls in baseball, but because the fourth was a smaller market team nothing to see here. One of those 20 teams gets there, and nothing to see here.
I’d say yes
Just get rid of shitty owners
Yeah it would at least make it competitive.
I’m old enough to remember the NFL before the salary cap and it was boring as hell with only 4 teams really having a chance. Salary cap made it much more equitable. Baseball should do the same.
Definitely should have a salary cap and im a dodgers fan but if theres no cap small market team wont be able to compete
I think updating the draft and international signing rules would do a lot more for parity than a salary cap/floor
MLB should adopt the NFL model, so small market teams can compete, yes, I’m looking at you N.Y.
Yes. Both.
For the sake of parity it would certainly improve the game to have both a salary floor and a cap.
For the sake of being able to afford to go to more than a couple of games a year – it would be nice if they lower ticket prices a bit (which you could – if you didn’t hand out ridiculous money to the best players and peanuts to the minor Leaguers.)
And to improve the fan experience it would be nice if there weren’t so many games blacked out. Especially if you live a state or two away from the stadium of the team that’s blacked out.
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No cap, maybe floor
Yes. And Yes.
Yes, both. I don’t understand how anyone can argue against it unless you’re a dodger fan at this point
A cap is just a transfer of profits to billionaire owners though. I’m sure Fisher can use another $50mln, i guess.
No cap is probably one of the only things the Commish and the Player’s Assoc agree on. We’re not the customers; companies that buy ad space and corp season tickets/loges are the customers
is there some way to track how much owners spend versus how much they pocket
Maybe a floor, even in the minors when you see the conditions some of these guys live in.
Someone keeping track of the “yes” and “no”
Both
Yes
Both of em for sure.
No cap but for sure a floor, encourage these teams to be more competitive
I mean, maybe just place more rules on deferred payments…? There won’t be a cap but you can lock down the soft cap a little more by addressing the gray area of deferred payments. Everyone does it at some point but for the dodgers to have almost a billion total in deferred really highlights a flaw in the system. Idk if its an easy fix but would probably help alleviate some of the discourse and wouldn’t result in a full season strike by the players association…
A floor yes, I feel that if you’re gonna call yourself a MLB worthy team then you have an obligation to the community to be competitive. Otherwise just be a minor league city.
A cap, not only players but perhaps on tickets. I feel like supply and demand warrants tickets but also there should be a requirement for the games to at least be somewhat affordable for everyone.
Yes. They all make too much. I will watch pro sports, but they will never get another nickel from me.
Better broadcasting deals
Then
Better revenue share
Then
Salary floor
Then
Salary cap
Cap and floor
There’s really not a whole lot of evidence that buying championships works. Buying a spot in the postseason? Sure! But MLB has a hell of a lot more parity than other leagues that do have a cap.
The Dodgers won this year. If they win one or two more or like 3 out of the next five this should be a discussion. Right now it’s just fans being salty that Dodgers owners are willing to spend money and their owners aren’t.
I hate baseball cuz there is no salary cap and this is giving teams like LA and New York the ability to hog all the talent.
Ideally both. With revenue sharing small market teams make more by spending less. With a floor that extra money would go to veteran players. A cap would make the league more competitive overall.
Yes for both
Hot take – the issue isn’t a lack of a salary cap, it’s the insanely bad revenue share system
Both
Both.
I’ve said this before in the sub, but it’s so fucking tiring to see the same teams be successful over and over and over again. Dodgers, Yankees, Astros, whatever.
The leagues need to realize that there aren’t just four or five teams. There are 30. The richest owners keep getting away with buying all the talent
Both. A floor to make sure owners aren’t just milking the franchise dry and not putting up a respectable product and a cap to make sure parity exists within the league.
Watching the Mets, Dodgers and Yankees spend $400m per year disincentivizes owners in smaller markets from trying because they know they’re not competing for anything but a division title anyway.
Every team should be able to field a superstar or two. I’m not a big NBA fan but look at their rosters. Instances like the LeBron era Heat don’t exist without someone taking a pay cut for the betterment of the team. We see MLB players showing less and less loyalty to their teammates when they’re already seeing a lot of guys pulling 18-25m per year.
Cap it at 400m since salaries are inflating so much already and it won’t fuck over the vast majority of the league.
You need both, the disparity is crazy and just getting crazier.
How about zero deferment contracts?
Yeah, guys are getting payed too much for lackluster performances. Even in the 90s and even 00s guys were not making money like they do now. They should use that money to make the experience better for the fans, better stadiums, better food, cheaper tickets. Maybe I’m alone on this one
Cap and if anyone says otherwise they clearly are from large markets. It is not fair that the Dodgers can have Ohtani, Yamamoto, Snell, Betts, and Everyone else as well.
Absolutely there’s a reason most other major sports have it
All of the “no cap” takes that think they’re being pro-worker or something are ridiculous. A salary cap will not necessarily change the distribution of profits between players and owners. In fact, this can still be negotiated. All a salary cap will do is make it so every team, in every market, can compete instead of the current situation where you have at most 10 teams whose fans can expect their team to compete for a championship. The lack of a salary cap is what is killing this league.
Can’t have a cap without a floor. Yes 💯
Absolutely need a cap. It’s ridiculous at this point
Yes.
Yes to both. Nfl model is best
Yes, yes and yes.
Yes, they wonder why the NFL has passed them
Yes, the WS winners who got the biggest FA last season, got the top FA pitcher this season. Simply, even without deferred money they could sign two more top FAs and still make more money than most of the other teams.
Yes, of the four teams in the Championship series, 3 had the highest payrolls in baseball, but because the fourth was a smaller market team nothing to see here. One of those 20 teams gets there, and nothing to see here.
I’d say yes
Just get rid of shitty owners
Yeah it would at least make it competitive.
I’m old enough to remember the NFL before the salary cap and it was boring as hell with only 4 teams really having a chance. Salary cap made it much more equitable. Baseball should do the same.
Definitely should have a salary cap and im a dodgers fan but if theres no cap small market team wont be able to compete
I think updating the draft and international signing rules would do a lot more for parity than a salary cap/floor
MLB should adopt the NFL model, so small market teams can compete, yes, I’m looking at you N.Y.
Yes. Both.
For the sake of parity it would certainly improve the game to have both a salary floor and a cap.
For the sake of being able to afford to go to more than a couple of games a year – it would be nice if they lower ticket prices a bit (which you could – if you didn’t hand out ridiculous money to the best players and peanuts to the minor Leaguers.)
And to improve the fan experience it would be nice if there weren’t so many games blacked out. Especially if you live a state or two away from the stadium of the team that’s blacked out.
A floor and a roof.