500m revenue for the most average team of all time. Dodgers aren’t the problem. Do better John.
November 29, 2024
500m revenue for the most average team of all time. Dodgers aren’t the problem. Do better John.
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More or less stealing this post from the Rays sub, but there are a lot of fanbases that should see this imo.
Agreed. For everyone screaming about a salary cap, there also needs to be a floor.
At least the Sox have 4 chips. And I hope for more. Could be last on here. Happy they are not. LGSox.
Very curious how the revenue stacked up this year. Dodger revenue must have been astronomical and Yankee revenue probably saw large growth too. Hopefully our revenue dropped but I doubt it
Did the Mets operate at a loss for 2023? I wonder how much operating costs including staff payroll, field maintenance, stadium employees, etc are. I’m guessing owners wouldn’t volunteer that information to the public
And if they signed Montgomery like people were demanding they do, they’d probably have been worse. But they’d have spent more money, so that’s all that matters, right?
Lol Mets make dick
We know exactly why the Red Sox weren’t spending. They were buying expensive things. Liverpool, PGA tour, Penguins, etc.
once Yoshinobu Yamamoto was off the board last year, there really wasnt anyone worth spending on last year… this year is different, they need to pay for a talent like Soto…. its going to be a long time before someone of his caliber that is a free agent after his age 25 season
Two things can be true at once
The Dodgers are not the problem but a huge problem with this fanbase is the expectation / frustration that Henry doesn’t spend like the Dodgers/Yankees/Mets did last year. He has never ever blown that far past the CBT. Not in dollars nor percentage. His highest CBT bill ever is 2018 and that bill was the 27th highest all time. The majority of the top 26 are CBT bills from the Yankees and Dodgers that are way way higher and way way larger team salaries.
This team absolutely should be spending at/near the CBT every year. During this ownership they typically have, and have shown a willingness to go deeper past the CBT when they have a real great contending roster on their hands (particularly willing to add salary if they’re doing well mid-season).
Salary has been down the last 2 years after they completely mismanaged their cap station in 2022 (and have been clearly trying to do a rebuild/reset). Which is very frustrating I agree. But now that their core seems ready to contend and they have money to spend and valuable prospects they can trade, I do fully expect this offseason to be huge. I expect them to spend near the CBT and make some big trades.
But anyone who is upset that they’re not gonna have a $300M payroll next year is completely delusional. They have never ever operated that way (the way the Dodgers/Yankees do) and they’ve won 4 championships sticking with that mindset. They’re not all of a sudden going to change.
Down voted. OK. I’d rather be a Sox fan then a Pirate or Rays or A’s fan. I am a content Sox fan. LGSox.
They’re not mutually exclusive. The Dodgers are ruining baseball *and* our ownership isn’t spending commensurate with revenue.
Extremely misleading. It costs many millions more, on top of just player salaries, to run a team.
And if y’all keep giving the Sox your money while they field these boring teams…
This is idiotic. You need other measures of COST. There are two numbers here: top-line revenue and ONE cost (player salaries). Yes, it’s a big cost, but it’s not the only one.
Not saying this can’t be directionally interesting. No team is going from bottom to top or vice versa if you add data but this is incredibly oversimplified.
I also think John Henry is a massive douche and have never been a fan of him as an owner. But I also don’t like shitty data being sold as truth.
Easy to see why the Rays are John Henry’s model organization.
17 comments
More or less stealing this post from the Rays sub, but there are a lot of fanbases that should see this imo.
Agreed. For everyone screaming about a salary cap, there also needs to be a floor.
At least the Sox have 4 chips. And I hope for more. Could be last on here. Happy they are not. LGSox.
Very curious how the revenue stacked up this year. Dodger revenue must have been astronomical and Yankee revenue probably saw large growth too. Hopefully our revenue dropped but I doubt it
Did the Mets operate at a loss for 2023? I wonder how much operating costs including staff payroll, field maintenance, stadium employees, etc are. I’m guessing owners wouldn’t volunteer that information to the public
And if they signed Montgomery like people were demanding they do, they’d probably have been worse. But they’d have spent more money, so that’s all that matters, right?
Lol Mets make dick
We know exactly why the Red Sox weren’t spending. They were buying expensive things. Liverpool, PGA tour, Penguins, etc.
once Yoshinobu Yamamoto was off the board last year, there really wasnt anyone worth spending on last year… this year is different, they need to pay for a talent like Soto…. its going to be a long time before someone of his caliber that is a free agent after his age 25 season
Two things can be true at once
The Dodgers are not the problem but a huge problem with this fanbase is the expectation / frustration that Henry doesn’t spend like the Dodgers/Yankees/Mets did last year. He has never ever blown that far past the CBT. Not in dollars nor percentage. His highest CBT bill ever is 2018 and that bill was the 27th highest all time. The majority of the top 26 are CBT bills from the Yankees and Dodgers that are way way higher and way way larger team salaries.
This team absolutely should be spending at/near the CBT every year. During this ownership they typically have, and have shown a willingness to go deeper past the CBT when they have a real great contending roster on their hands (particularly willing to add salary if they’re doing well mid-season).
Salary has been down the last 2 years after they completely mismanaged their cap station in 2022 (and have been clearly trying to do a rebuild/reset). Which is very frustrating I agree. But now that their core seems ready to contend and they have money to spend and valuable prospects they can trade, I do fully expect this offseason to be huge. I expect them to spend near the CBT and make some big trades.
But anyone who is upset that they’re not gonna have a $300M payroll next year is completely delusional. They have never ever operated that way (the way the Dodgers/Yankees do) and they’ve won 4 championships sticking with that mindset. They’re not all of a sudden going to change.
Down voted. OK. I’d rather be a Sox fan then a Pirate or Rays or A’s fan. I am a content Sox fan. LGSox.
They’re not mutually exclusive. The Dodgers are ruining baseball *and* our ownership isn’t spending commensurate with revenue.
Extremely misleading. It costs many millions more, on top of just player salaries, to run a team.
And if y’all keep giving the Sox your money while they field these boring teams…
This is idiotic. You need other measures of COST. There are two numbers here: top-line revenue and ONE cost (player salaries). Yes, it’s a big cost, but it’s not the only one.
Not saying this can’t be directionally interesting. No team is going from bottom to top or vice versa if you add data but this is incredibly oversimplified.
I also think John Henry is a massive douche and have never been a fan of him as an owner. But I also don’t like shitty data being sold as truth.
Easy to see why the Rays are John Henry’s model organization.