Dan Orlovsky Film breakdown of the OPI that took 6 off the board.

Dan Orlovsky Film breakdown of the OPI that took 6 off the board.
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  1. did not even realize how long it took the refs to throw the flag absolutely insane

  3. Yikes. Definitely looks like Watson is trying to get away while Joseph steps into him because he isn’t looking.

  4. I didn’t realize how long it took to throw the flag. It’s either a penalty RIGHT away, or it’s not. You cannot throw the flag based off the results of the play, the moment it became a TD they threw the flag. It’s a legal play, Watson like Dan said here made legal contact and he ran through his guy to run his route. This should not have been called.

    This was truly the call of the game from the refs. Instead of being up 4, we kicked to tie the game. It took away that 4th down chance even if Jacobs fell short of the end zone.

  5. Give us a better officiating crew and a healthy secondary and we beat this lions team, I wanna see them in the playoffs and I wanna ruin their season

  6. this is really helpful. I guess what I don’t understand is why this doesn’t work both ways – can’t defenders then just pick themselves, effectively, and draw a flag at will? why does the wr not have a right to a route? do the flags not get thrown if watson ultimately catches the ball?

  7. The fact this was called but Amon Ra’s wasnt is infuriating. I still feel good about the game though, if thats what they needed to ensure victory then i feel pretty good about our odds

  9. I don’t give a fuck what happened in the last decade for the Lions lol they were terrible and the refs weren’t changing the outcomes of their games like this.

    Awful call, add it to the stack of them from last night.

    Kirby just baiting by staying on the ground too

  10. Wowww. It’s even worse than I thought. Watson is on his route and even tries to get out of the way. Thats not a penalty they call if the outcome of that play was different.

  11. Absolute bullshit. He’s not even reaching for his flag for a full 6 seconds after the penalty and clearly has no intention of calling anything until he sees it’s about to be a TD.

  14. The delay is the most egregious part. The ref/side judge only makes that call when he sees Jacobs get a TD. Very telling.
    If you call that – call it both ways.

  15. This video is even more infuriating than seeing it live. You can clearly see Kirby slide parallel to the line, into Watson’s route, then he dives and rolls around, making no attempt to get back up. He initiated the contact then drew attention to it by flopping.

  17. the defender actively shifts over a step right before contact to make sure they run into each other so he can flop like a lil bitch

  18. Like this breakdown from Orlovsky. Obviously how late the flags come out is annoying as hell.

    Will say I think he was being a bit generous to the Lions though. I am not sure how anyone could say that Watson was trying to pick him here. He literally tries to make himself smaller as the contact occurs. Clear as day incidental to me

  19. Given the delayed flag I gotta wonder if the refs clearly saw the contact or if they just saw Jacob’s signal that he was open with the defender on the ground.

  20. What I don’t understand about this is even if it’s illegal, wouldn’t it be illegal contact and not OPI? Doesn’t the ball have to be in the air for an OPI penalty?

  23. Watson is clearly running a slant. It’s a traditional slant/flat concept that has been around forever. Flat defender moving to Jacobs is clearly not even looking. He makes the contact with Watson. Watson dips the shoulder to avoid him. Such BS.

    On LaPorta’s, he seeks out McDuffie and engages with hands extended. It doesn’t get anymore text book.

    I watch tons a football, have all my life. The accumulation of all the text book no calls in key moments was a new level. I’ve never turned off a game feeling that disgusted over everything that happened.

    It’s obvious that the darling teams have figured out they don’t get flagged for stuff in key moments and are using it to their advantage.

    It’s one thing to be bitching about refs when a call or two goes wrong. No one likes that. When it’s an accumulation of about 8 huge calls… that’s where it becomes different. I wonder how the players keep their emotions and anger in check in games like that.

  24. The flag takes a couple seconds but the ref is clearing trying to dig it out of his pocket the whole time. Thats a really stupid thing to get hung up on Mr. Orlovsky.

    I could see this call going either way. Its a tough one. Watson did great, ran his route and tried to avoid contact. Kirby runs smack into him with eyes on Jacobs. I’d like to see them pick up the flag there but I don’t mind them throwing the flag and talking it over.

  25. i knew at this point in the game there was no way they were going to let our boys win

  26. What’s stupid about this whole scenario is that Watson was literally just running in a straight line of his route, why is it on him that the defender ran straight into him? It’s not like Watson specifically went out of his way to target the defender, if that were the case then I would absolutely agree with the call, but basically the NFL/referees are now setting a precedent that all the defensive backs have to do is run straight into a receiver on his route and they will either get a call thrown their way or at the very least completely fuck up the receiver in his route. I wouldn’t be surprised if defenses start to use this to their advantage now and this whole thing getting really messy before they finally fix it. In retrospect what exactly do they expect the receiver to do? Stop and ask the defender to kindly move out of his way?

  27. At least he didn’t stop & do an old school basketball pick like Kmet did TWICE on Thanksgiving.

  28. Here is the rule:

    Acts that are pass interference include:

    (A) Blocking more than one yard beyond the line of scrimmage by an offensive player prior to a pass being See 8-3-1-Note for exception for an ineligible offensive player; or

    (B) Blocking a defender beyond the line while the pass is in the air if the block occurs in the vicinity of the player to whom the pass is thrown. See 8-3-1-Note for exception for ineligible players.

  29. The part about when the flag was thrown is not in context of the rules… It’s only a penalty if the ball is thrown. If it’s a running play, there is no penalty. The ref reached for the flag and waited till the ball was thrown to throw the flag.

    The other parts of the argument are fair to debate. But when it was thrown is when it was supposed to be thrown.

    (Edit: One more point I saw after posting… It’s also not an illegal pick if the pass is completed behind the line of scrimmage. WRs are allowed to block downfield if the ball is caught behind the line. At the moment the pick happened, there were still two receivers (one WR, one RB) who could’ve been the target. They threw the flags when it was thrown downfield, not just thrown.

  30. News flash all receivers push off. Stop crying we could go back and look at film and see 50 missed holding calls on the packers and a litany of other crap. Get over it, if your this miserable the next day after a game maybe you need to take a break from the NFL for a bit.

  31. I don’t want to blame the refs, but this crap shouldn’t happen on a continuous basis

  32. This penalty made 0 difference. If anyone thinks the Defense would have not allowed DET to drive down and score a TD, then I have some land on the moon to sell you.

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