Cardinals hung up the phone immediately on the Yankees.

Nolan Arenado trade talks with the Yankees hit a bump in the road, that bump being Marcus Stroman. The Cardinals didn’t want any part of Marcus Stroman in a deal for the third baseman.

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45 comments
  1. I’m surprised that the Yankees are trying for him considering they weren’t on the list of 6 teams he was willing to waive his no trade clause for

  2. Fried good

    Williams good

    Bellinger good

    Goldschmidt bad

    Goldschmidt is going to be 37 y.o. in 2025. His numbers have been in sharp decline over the last 2 years. He had a poor year in 2024. While generally speaking it's not unusual for star players to bounce back from subpar years, it's kind of rare for a player who is about to be 37 y.o. to bounce back
    from a bad year. These guys don't last forever. A poor year at his age usually means the player is coming to the end.. And a player his age who has seen his numbers decline a lot each of the last 2 years isn't a great sign either.

    This has "Josh Donaldson" written all over it.

  3. I'm happy with all the moves the Yankees have made so far with max Fried, Cody Bellinger and Williams but Goldschmidt, Arenado, are past their prime.. I would have rather kept first base open for the rookie and develop him more. I hope they trade stroman he's the sixth starter and the odd man out.

  4. Yeah this is kinda old news, happened before the winter meetings . Us getting goldy actually helps our chances to get em, they are close asf and he may wanna wave that no trade clause now

  5. I agree Armando isn’t the way to go he has 3 years left and a lot of money owed per year but golds is a one year deal it saves money for next year when Tucker is fa

  6. The cards blew it earlier this off-season once Soto signed with the Mets and the Astros had a deal with the cards, but Arenado refused to go. The Yankees offered to take Arenado if the cards would take Stroman but Arenado is owed 53 million. Stroman is only owed a18 million with an option. But in order for that option to vest Stroman must pitch 130 innings, which will never happen as the Yankees sixth starter.. So the Cardinals are now probably stuck paying Arenado 53 million over 3 years. And the Yankees are likely stuck paying Stroman 18 million and will not allow Stromans option to vest. The Yankees planned to use Arenado at 1st, but once they signed Goldschmidt that ended all interest in Arenado

  7. Ultimately, Arenado wants to play for his hometown Dodgers. He really doesn't want to play anywhere else. He will only choose another destination if the Dodgers tell him no. The Dodgers seem to be playing a game of chicken with the Cardinals on this as well as with Teoscar Hernandez. Time to face it, the Yankees are stuck with Stroman unless they take back an equally bad contract. If the Yankees don't find some way to improve their defense, they could be looking at not making the playoffs at all in 2025.

  8. I think they will start to transition judge to first base soon to keep him healthy and his legs fresh. In the next yr or two mark my words judge will be there regular first baseman. Guys his size don't last as long playing outfield positions the older they get. I would of had Rice and Rizzo platoon first and used that money on third base (Since jazz is moving to second).

  9. The Yankees tried trading for Nolan Arenado, but the talks ended the second Marcus Stroman’s name came up. Cardinals hung up immediately. Seems like Stroman isn’t the trade chip they hoped he’d be!

  10. Cardinals have to realize they overpaid for this player, they will have to take less for him and chip in money for that CRAZY contract. If they think he's worth a Schmidt or Gil they're crazy. Stroman is about right. Maybe the Yankees pay $20 mil of his salary. Yankees should sign Kim from SD for 2B. Pick up another OF. Insurance for Stanton.

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