Now that we know the prospects more…’Reviewing the Mets’ 2023 Trade Deadline’
January 5, 2025
Just interesting to (re)read in 2025, seeing how the prospects are progressing (…and a reminder of the trades that got them).
Something different while waiting on Alonso news.
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Something to note where Jarvis and Jeremiah Jackson elected free agency from the Mets this off-season, but they were also just lottery ticket throw ins for Canha and Dominic Leone.
I do think we also have to remember what we gave up for these players
– Scherzer – he was looking like a shell of himself and had a $43mil player option for the following season
– JV – Looked great, but started the season on the IL, had another year at $43mil, and had a vesting option
– Pham – He looked great with us, but he wasnt a strong defender and hadn’t looked great the prior 3 seasons
– Robertson – He looked amazing. But he was also a reliever in a market where a lot of relievers moved
– Canha – He had a great 2022, but struggled in 2023 and was starting to look old
– Escobar – He started the season on life support leading Baty to be rushed to the majors and couldn’t hit RHP anymore
– Dominic Leone – Grabbed off waivers and was just fine
So reviewing the trades:
#Clifford and Gilbert for JV – A-
Clifford was viewed as the better prospect at the time and it looks like that. His ceiling is super high, and his floor is quite low. Looks like a true TTO guy.
Gilbert has struggled with injuries and there are concerns he won’t be able to play CF. He was never projected to be a big bat so he needs that defense. He has fallen out of the top 100 lists and profiles more as a corner outfielder with slightly above average offense.
But we moved half of JVs contract, got Clifford, and got Gilbert too who could still turn things around
#Acuna for Max – A
The fact we got anything usable for Max is amazing. AND we moved half his salary.
Acuna likely profiles to be a guy who can hit to around a .750 OPS, play plus infield defense, maybe play OF defense, and swipe 40 bags.
It’s unclear if he’ll be an everyday starter or more of a utility guy, but either way that’s legitimate value
#Rodriguez for Pham – A-
Too early in Rodriguez’s career to really judge but he has profiled very well for his age. Getting that kind of potential for Pham is great value
#Vargas for DRob – B-
I think I gave this an A- at the time but Vargas basically lost all of last year with injury. I may be being too harsh to a guy who was considered just outside the top 100 a year ago. But I need to see him hit again this year to give it a better score
#Jarvis for Canha – F
This felt like an unnecessary move. Canha would have been a benefit on the 2024 roster even as an overpaid bench bat and Jarvis wasnt even protected in the Rule 5 draft. This felt like a move to make a move. I didnt like it at the time and I dont like it now.
#Crow and Marceaux for Escobar – A+
I still can’t believe we got anything for Escobar, even eating his contract. Marceaux was grabbed in the minor league rule 5 I believe, and Crow we knew needed TJ when we traded for him.
But Crow had legitimate value even after TJ and that’s how we traded him for Taylor and Hauser
#Jeremiah Jackson for Dominic Leone – C
Jackson provided us some depth while here even if we didnt use him and just elected FA. But we also gave up nothing for him. A guy we grabbed off waivers for free.
Can’t really give anything more or less than it being just a wash.
2 comments
Something to note where Jarvis and Jeremiah Jackson elected free agency from the Mets this off-season, but they were also just lottery ticket throw ins for Canha and Dominic Leone.
I do think we also have to remember what we gave up for these players
– Scherzer – he was looking like a shell of himself and had a $43mil player option for the following season
– JV – Looked great, but started the season on the IL, had another year at $43mil, and had a vesting option
– Pham – He looked great with us, but he wasnt a strong defender and hadn’t looked great the prior 3 seasons
– Robertson – He looked amazing. But he was also a reliever in a market where a lot of relievers moved
– Canha – He had a great 2022, but struggled in 2023 and was starting to look old
– Escobar – He started the season on life support leading Baty to be rushed to the majors and couldn’t hit RHP anymore
– Dominic Leone – Grabbed off waivers and was just fine
So reviewing the trades:
#Clifford and Gilbert for JV – A-
Clifford was viewed as the better prospect at the time and it looks like that. His ceiling is super high, and his floor is quite low. Looks like a true TTO guy.
Gilbert has struggled with injuries and there are concerns he won’t be able to play CF. He was never projected to be a big bat so he needs that defense. He has fallen out of the top 100 lists and profiles more as a corner outfielder with slightly above average offense.
But we moved half of JVs contract, got Clifford, and got Gilbert too who could still turn things around
#Acuna for Max – A
The fact we got anything usable for Max is amazing. AND we moved half his salary.
Acuna likely profiles to be a guy who can hit to around a .750 OPS, play plus infield defense, maybe play OF defense, and swipe 40 bags.
It’s unclear if he’ll be an everyday starter or more of a utility guy, but either way that’s legitimate value
#Rodriguez for Pham – A-
Too early in Rodriguez’s career to really judge but he has profiled very well for his age. Getting that kind of potential for Pham is great value
#Vargas for DRob – B-
I think I gave this an A- at the time but Vargas basically lost all of last year with injury. I may be being too harsh to a guy who was considered just outside the top 100 a year ago. But I need to see him hit again this year to give it a better score
#Jarvis for Canha – F
This felt like an unnecessary move. Canha would have been a benefit on the 2024 roster even as an overpaid bench bat and Jarvis wasnt even protected in the Rule 5 draft. This felt like a move to make a move. I didnt like it at the time and I dont like it now.
#Crow and Marceaux for Escobar – A+
I still can’t believe we got anything for Escobar, even eating his contract. Marceaux was grabbed in the minor league rule 5 I believe, and Crow we knew needed TJ when we traded for him.
But Crow had legitimate value even after TJ and that’s how we traded him for Taylor and Hauser
#Jeremiah Jackson for Dominic Leone – C
Jackson provided us some depth while here even if we didnt use him and just elected FA. But we also gave up nothing for him. A guy we grabbed off waivers for free.
Can’t really give anything more or less than it being just a wash.
#Overall I give that deadline an A-