This about Baker? Say what you want, he was mid as a Brown and we would likely have moved on after 2022 anyway leading us to a similar situation we are in if not a bit better since we don’t have the bum at qb for 150 mil over the next 3 years.
Crap football team has everyone at each other’s throats, and everyone blaming the media members….
*sniff*
we are so back
The narrative has changed on Baker, but people talk about Baker as if the current narrative was always the narrative. That’s why people say “revisionist history”.
Not revisionist history if I thought we should try have moved on from Baker in the first place.
Just that much more validated.
I’ll still cite that if Anthony Schwartz didn’t pull up on the crossing route that got picked off, Baker wouldn’t have had to make a pride tackle and hurt himself. What happens to that season? Do we need a QB after that?
The Browns are going to the Super Bowl
Lol not this comment section too!
Hey Farva, what’s it called when we try to make the Browns look more competent than they are?
Bengals revisionist history is cheeky and fun.
Browns revisionist history is sad and tragic.
Well, then a certain segment of this fanbase needs to stop coming up with creative ways to blame Baker Mayfield for the decisions and failure of so many other people.
It’s a really pathetic form of digging in, after the “Baker Bros” narrative was spun on its head. He’s succeeding. The Browns suck. And the fault belongs to…
I’ve literally seen people blame Baker for the Deshaun debacle. It was his fault! He forced the Browns to do this!
Sure, Jan.
I’ll never forgive him for ruining Christmas when they played the packers.
The past is the past but that isn’t going to stop this sub (and r/nfl and literally every form of social media) from bringing up the same thing all the time
Revisionist history
It’s like people can’t appreciate that two things are (likely) simultaneously true:
1) We’d be “better off” with Baker as compared to Watson.
2) We still wouldn’t have been a Super Bowl contender.
Sure, good for Baker to win the shitty-ass NFC South. Unlikely to translate to the AFC North where he’s still the third-best QB.
This sub spiraling into the hellscape where it belongs makes me smile. lol.
I bet Baker will win a championship before the Browns win a championship.
(Wash if neither wins when Baker retires or Baker wins with the browns. Lofl)
How did this become the most insufferable thread out of all of them?
Revisionist? What the hell is a $10 word like that doing in this sub?
I’ll die on the hill that I’ve been anti Watson going back to the Clemson days. I got my downvotes then and I’ll get them now.
I always felt he was just a jump ball merchant and had amazing receivers that made him look much better than he was.
I also liked Baker as he was the first QB in my lifetime that won a playoff game. I felt we threw him under the bus on the idea he was the sole issue when our defense that year and previous playoff run wasn’t infallible themselves.
Baker wasn’t perfect and I’m not gonna act like he was, but he also wasn’t complete trash while here (unlike Watson, sans the one half against Baltimore). To act like you didn’t win anything with him is also rewriting history.
The team tasted a little success and decided they were better than that and made a gamble that royally bit them. I don’t feel sorry for the organization at all.
I’m mainly just tired of rehashing the baker thing over and over. Who knows if he would’ve been as good as now if he stayed. The bigger error in my mind is getting Watson – which I blame more than anyone for our current situation.
We should have never fired Chud!
I’m fine with being “wrong” but I don’t get paid to be “right” or “wrong” about football. I also don’t think it’s revisionism to say they should’ve kept their mouths shut when they decided they were going to explore other options at QB instead of pissing Baker off so they didn’t back themselves into a corner and force themselves to trade him.
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Shenanigans.
Thank you for this.
This about Baker? Say what you want, he was mid as a Brown and we would likely have moved on after 2022 anyway leading us to a similar situation we are in if not a bit better since we don’t have the bum at qb for 150 mil over the next 3 years.
Crap football team has everyone at each other’s throats, and everyone blaming the media members….
*sniff*
we are so back
The narrative has changed on Baker, but people talk about Baker as if the current narrative was always the narrative. That’s why people say “revisionist history”.
Not revisionist history if I thought we should try have moved on from Baker in the first place.
Just that much more validated.
I’ll still cite that if Anthony Schwartz didn’t pull up on the crossing route that got picked off, Baker wouldn’t have had to make a pride tackle and hurt himself. What happens to that season? Do we need a QB after that?
The Browns are going to the Super Bowl
Lol not this comment section too!
Hey Farva, what’s it called when we try to make the Browns look more competent than they are?
Bengals revisionist history is cheeky and fun.
Browns revisionist history is sad and tragic.
Well, then a certain segment of this fanbase needs to stop coming up with creative ways to blame Baker Mayfield for the decisions and failure of so many other people.
It’s a really pathetic form of digging in, after the “Baker Bros” narrative was spun on its head. He’s succeeding. The Browns suck. And the fault belongs to…
I’ve literally seen people blame Baker for the Deshaun debacle. It was his fault! He forced the Browns to do this!
Sure, Jan.
I’ll never forgive him for ruining Christmas when they played the packers.
The past is the past but that isn’t going to stop this sub (and r/nfl and literally every form of social media) from bringing up the same thing all the time
Revisionist history
It’s like people can’t appreciate that two things are (likely) simultaneously true:
1) We’d be “better off” with Baker as compared to Watson.
2) We still wouldn’t have been a Super Bowl contender.
Sure, good for Baker to win the shitty-ass NFC South. Unlikely to translate to the AFC North where he’s still the third-best QB.
This sub spiraling into the hellscape where it belongs makes me smile. lol.
I bet Baker will win a championship before the Browns win a championship.
(Wash if neither wins when Baker retires or Baker wins with the browns. Lofl)
How did this become the most insufferable thread out of all of them?
Revisionist? What the hell is a $10 word like that doing in this sub?
I’ll die on the hill that I’ve been anti Watson going back to the Clemson days. I got my downvotes then and I’ll get them now.
I always felt he was just a jump ball merchant and had amazing receivers that made him look much better than he was.
I also liked Baker as he was the first QB in my lifetime that won a playoff game. I felt we threw him under the bus on the idea he was the sole issue when our defense that year and previous playoff run wasn’t infallible themselves.
Baker wasn’t perfect and I’m not gonna act like he was, but he also wasn’t complete trash while here (unlike Watson, sans the one half against Baltimore). To act like you didn’t win anything with him is also rewriting history.
The team tasted a little success and decided they were better than that and made a gamble that royally bit them. I don’t feel sorry for the organization at all.
I’m mainly just tired of rehashing the baker thing over and over. Who knows if he would’ve been as good as now if he stayed. The bigger error in my mind is getting Watson – which I blame more than anyone for our current situation.
We should have never fired Chud!
I’m fine with being “wrong” but I don’t get paid to be “right” or “wrong” about football. I also don’t think it’s revisionism to say they should’ve kept their mouths shut when they decided they were going to explore other options at QB instead of pissing Baker off so they didn’t back themselves into a corner and force themselves to trade him.