How terrible of an evaluator he was needs to be studied by all future front office aspirants. If you want to ever become a GM, study this man in detail and do the exact opposite of what he did.
Pretty annoying but, realistically, this gives me a _ton_ of hope for the future and more credence to the _”this is the worst team JD5 will play with”_ narrative.
For everyone who wants to trade multiple picks for (insert superstar’s name here) this is the graphic you need to reference. We’re so far behind on young talent. We have the fewest guys on rookie deals in the league. Normally when you have a star QB on a rookie deal you have a ton of extra cap space. We do not because of how bad Ron’s drafts were. Jayden’s contract catches us up, it does not put us ahead of the salary cap game.
We absolutely cannot afford to trade away draft picks. Even if they don’t play as well as the expensive vets, we need their cheap contracts. Jayden is gonna be the highest paid player in NFL history when he signs his extension in 3 years. We need to have our ducks in a row by then to remain competitive.
Whats the time period on this dataset
Hopefully we hire a new GM soon, so we don’t have to keep obsessing over Ron. It’ll be refreshing to finally move forward with a new front office.
Yeah, wish i was a bears fan instead 🥴
But yes Rivera was fuckin horrible
Ron would trade for Myles Garrett.
Which hopefully upon realizing that, fans will stop fapping for a guy who’s on his way out of the league.
Fat lot of good its done for the Bears
Ron is bad, but also look at the guys he was leaning on as well – Martin Mayhew and Marty Hurney. Both garbage.
Well, thats a stat that dont mean shit, look who is #1
Isn’t a little concerning that the 49ers are at 43%? I know Peters wasn’t the main guy, but he was part of it.
When the bears are first and we, a team that made the conference championship, are last, you wonder about the other factor in this stat: knowing when your young players aren’t worth starting, and moving onto better options.
no shit. move on.
And Cal went YUMMY give me that Ronald good stuff
Ron needed to be Ron. We would not have been in the position to draft Daniels otherwise. Every time I feel like shitting on him, I think of the 2024 season.
Everyone feels like they can do another’s person job better than them until they actually have to do it. Because a person is a solid coach doesn’t mean they’re great talent evaluators and that’s where I feel a lot of coaches fail when they try to fill that role. Not everyone can be Bill Parcell or Andy Reid. They can try it, but it’s not as successful as hiring a qualified GM.
This is why commanders are my favorite to win the division next year.
(Eagles fan, Reddit showed me this post and just had to comment.)
Fun fact.
We have the same number of 1st and 2nd round picks from two regimes ago (Bruce and Jay) starting (2017 RD1- DT J. Allen and 2018 RD1- DT D. Payne) as we do from Ron & Co. (2021 RD2- OG S. Cosmi and 2023 RD2- FS Q. Martin).
Ron’s picks may temporarily overtake this later in the offseason. If we release/trade Allen he will obviously not be here. If we restructure him, his status of “starter” is now a little dubious. But on the other hand, another one of Bruce & Jay’s first rounders is currently firmly starting for the Bears.
My god Ron fucked this roster when he was here. Like most of the dudes everyone clamors to replace are dudes he brought in via draft or FA.
What sucks is that we literally could have had fans making picks in the first round in 2021-2023 and gotten significantly better results (I don’t kill him for Young in 2020, that was a supposed slam dunk pick that EVERYONE got wrong).
2021-Most people wanted Christian Darrisaw. I personally wanted JOK. Both are All Pro caliber players now. Instead we took Jamin Davis.
2022-Chris Olave was my guy. Also really liked Kyle Hamilton. Both were slam dunk easy picks. Instead we trade down and take scrub ass Jahan Dotson.
2023-Absolutely the most egregious. Christian Gonzalez was an EASY pick. We should have sprinted to the podium for him. WTF were we thinking taking scrawny ass Manny Forbes?
The positive spin is that we essentially traded three 1st round picks to move up to #2 in 2024 for Jayden Daniels while also getting a brand new regime change, so in that respect it worked out, but man was it painful.
Those were high character guys!
On a serious note I wonder how the dudes that were drafted by him in the first or second that didn’t pan out feel about their lives now. Like Ron hyped them up, send them out in a giant lake in a boat with no oars and dipped. Jamin Davis is the one that really comes to mind. Davis is the one that really comes to mind to me. Kid had a good year at Kentucky Ron’s dick get hard and really reached for him. Now wtf is he gonna do?
Got zero coaching or guidance and had to go home with his tail between his legs. I feel genuinely badly for the guys that got burned by CTE Ron. If any of you kids read this we are all sorry.
Ron is an idiot and I said that day one of his hire.
It was all Ron’s plan to land us Jayden, Ron sucked on purpose and so did Sam Howell
lol so the bears are just as bad but play them anyway
Only place to go is up
Only thing that helps me sleep at night is knowing that without his incompetence we likely wouldn’t have JD5 in right now.
Trading back to select Dotson when Kyle Hamilton was right there, taking Forbes instead of Gonzalez, picking Jamin Davis instead of JOK. Most of the fanbase were begging for the other options and Rivera took the wrong one every time.
All of them busts. Insane
Its how we got JD5 also.
The bears suck. Just starting the people you drafted isn’t a testament to drafting well.
Bears being #1 makes this stat lose a ton of credibility
This needs more context. How many of these picks were trading and starting? Some teams are so terrible that any high draft pick is going to start.
Guys, he’s gone and the team is now successful and in good hands. It’s ok, why are you continuing to stress yourself out about the past? It’s unhealthy. We’ve got a supermodel now and you’re worried about your ex. If you feel like to just have to get some of that hate out of your heart save it for Daniel Snyder 😂
Starters? Ron’s top picks were dead weight that AP ended up cutting/traded
Everybody loves the romanticized image of a bunch of Kenny Roger looking MF’ers in vests, lazily paddlewheeling down the mighty Mississippi, drinking whisky and knowin’ when to hold them and when to fold them, but no one likes to remember the times those riverboats’ boilers exploded in a mass tragedy event killing hundreds if not thousands.
Would also be interesting to see stats on “players released by team who ended up starting elsewhere”…
Seems like there’s a LOT of ex-Skins who seemed to blossom elsewhere. Like we were criminally unable to coach up anyone, unable to develop talent or play players in a manner to optimize on their strengths…
You guys can’t just leave the past in the past. Who fucking cares about Ron ? There’s a bright future ahead. Stop listening to Gruden on Grant and Danny and just enjoy the team.
Yet he still takes credit for our newfound success
Surprisingly unsurprising
This chart is meaningless. There are good and bad franchises throughout the entirety of this list.
The Chicago Bears have mismanaged their team for years. Their owners are nepo-baby skinflints. So it makes sense most of their top picks are on the roster: top free agents avoid the Bears like the plague! Chicago has missed the playoffs in 12 of the last 14 seasons.
The Kansas City Chiefs are tied with the NY Jets at 22nd on the list. Does anyone think the Jets have managed their personnel as well as the Chiefs over the last several seasons? Kansas City’s Hunt family are model NFL owners. NYJ chairman Woody Johnson is a jackass
the george constance of GM
just do the “opposite”
Hoping AP can keep up the good work. I’m a little worried about Ben Sinnott, Luke McCaffrey,, Jordan Magee but otherwise elated with his picks!
Lol UCal is getting a GEM
I don’t think 36% is right. I think it’s 33%. Of the 18 1st/2nd rounders still in the league (dating all the way back to 2010 Trent Williams), we start 6 of them: JD5, Sainristil, Quan Martin, Cosmi, Jon Allen and Daron Payne. 6 of 18 = 33%
But, this is assuming that it is counting from players who are still active in the league. So for us, guys like Dwayne Haskins and Derrius Guice aren’t counted either way. [This](https://www.instagram.com/p/DGE8qYnJjUn/) is where the graphic is originally from.
The other 12 guys off the team, or not yet starting:
1. Johnny Newton
2. Ben Sinnott
3. Emmannuel Forbes
4. Jahan Dotson
5. Phidarian Mathis
6. Jamin Davis
7. Chase Young
8. Montez Sweat
9. Brandon Scherff
10. Preston Smith
11. Morgan Moses
12. Trent Williams
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How terrible of an evaluator he was needs to be studied by all future front office aspirants. If you want to ever become a GM, study this man in detail and do the exact opposite of what he did.
Pretty annoying but, realistically, this gives me a _ton_ of hope for the future and more credence to the _”this is the worst team JD5 will play with”_ narrative.
For everyone who wants to trade multiple picks for (insert superstar’s name here) this is the graphic you need to reference. We’re so far behind on young talent. We have the fewest guys on rookie deals in the league. Normally when you have a star QB on a rookie deal you have a ton of extra cap space. We do not because of how bad Ron’s drafts were. Jayden’s contract catches us up, it does not put us ahead of the salary cap game.
We absolutely cannot afford to trade away draft picks. Even if they don’t play as well as the expensive vets, we need their cheap contracts. Jayden is gonna be the highest paid player in NFL history when he signs his extension in 3 years. We need to have our ducks in a row by then to remain competitive.
Whats the time period on this dataset
Hopefully we hire a new GM soon, so we don’t have to keep obsessing over Ron. It’ll be refreshing to finally move forward with a new front office.
Yeah, wish i was a bears fan instead 🥴
But yes Rivera was fuckin horrible
Ron would trade for Myles Garrett.
Which hopefully upon realizing that, fans will stop fapping for a guy who’s on his way out of the league.
Fat lot of good its done for the Bears
Ron is bad, but also look at the guys he was leaning on as well – Martin Mayhew and Marty Hurney. Both garbage.
Well, thats a stat that dont mean shit, look who is #1
Isn’t a little concerning that the 49ers are at 43%? I know Peters wasn’t the main guy, but he was part of it.
When the bears are first and we, a team that made the conference championship, are last, you wonder about the other factor in this stat: knowing when your young players aren’t worth starting, and moving onto better options.
no shit. move on.
And Cal went YUMMY give me that Ronald good stuff
Ron needed to be Ron. We would not have been in the position to draft Daniels otherwise. Every time I feel like shitting on him, I think of the 2024 season.
Everyone feels like they can do another’s person job better than them until they actually have to do it. Because a person is a solid coach doesn’t mean they’re great talent evaluators and that’s where I feel a lot of coaches fail when they try to fill that role. Not everyone can be Bill Parcell or Andy Reid. They can try it, but it’s not as successful as hiring a qualified GM.
This is why commanders are my favorite to win the division next year.
(Eagles fan, Reddit showed me this post and just had to comment.)
Fun fact.
We have the same number of 1st and 2nd round picks from two regimes ago (Bruce and Jay) starting (2017 RD1- DT J. Allen and 2018 RD1- DT D. Payne) as we do from Ron & Co. (2021 RD2- OG S. Cosmi and 2023 RD2- FS Q. Martin).
Ron’s picks may temporarily overtake this later in the offseason. If we release/trade Allen he will obviously not be here. If we restructure him, his status of “starter” is now a little dubious. But on the other hand, another one of Bruce & Jay’s first rounders is currently firmly starting for the Bears.
My god Ron fucked this roster when he was here. Like most of the dudes everyone clamors to replace are dudes he brought in via draft or FA.
What sucks is that we literally could have had fans making picks in the first round in 2021-2023 and gotten significantly better results (I don’t kill him for Young in 2020, that was a supposed slam dunk pick that EVERYONE got wrong).
2021-Most people wanted Christian Darrisaw. I personally wanted JOK. Both are All Pro caliber players now. Instead we took Jamin Davis.
2022-Chris Olave was my guy. Also really liked Kyle Hamilton. Both were slam dunk easy picks. Instead we trade down and take scrub ass Jahan Dotson.
2023-Absolutely the most egregious. Christian Gonzalez was an EASY pick. We should have sprinted to the podium for him. WTF were we thinking taking scrawny ass Manny Forbes?
The positive spin is that we essentially traded three 1st round picks to move up to #2 in 2024 for Jayden Daniels while also getting a brand new regime change, so in that respect it worked out, but man was it painful.
Those were high character guys!
On a serious note I wonder how the dudes that were drafted by him in the first or second that didn’t pan out feel about their lives now. Like Ron hyped them up, send them out in a giant lake in a boat with no oars and dipped. Jamin Davis is the one that really comes to mind. Davis is the one that really comes to mind to me. Kid had a good year at Kentucky Ron’s dick get hard and really reached for him. Now wtf is he gonna do?
Got zero coaching or guidance and had to go home with his tail between his legs. I feel genuinely badly for the guys that got burned by CTE Ron. If any of you kids read this we are all sorry.
Ron is an idiot and I said that day one of his hire.
It was all Ron’s plan to land us Jayden, Ron sucked on purpose and so did Sam Howell
lol so the bears are just as bad but play them anyway
Only place to go is up
Only thing that helps me sleep at night is knowing that without his incompetence we likely wouldn’t have JD5 in right now.
Trading back to select Dotson when Kyle Hamilton was right there, taking Forbes instead of Gonzalez, picking Jamin Davis instead of JOK. Most of the fanbase were begging for the other options and Rivera took the wrong one every time.
All of them busts. Insane
Its how we got JD5 also.
The bears suck. Just starting the people you drafted isn’t a testament to drafting well.
Bears being #1 makes this stat lose a ton of credibility
This needs more context. How many of these picks were trading and starting? Some teams are so terrible that any high draft pick is going to start.
Guys, he’s gone and the team is now successful and in good hands. It’s ok, why are you continuing to stress yourself out about the past? It’s unhealthy. We’ve got a supermodel now and you’re worried about your ex. If you feel like to just have to get some of that hate out of your heart save it for Daniel Snyder 😂
Starters? Ron’s top picks were dead weight that AP ended up cutting/traded
Everybody loves the romanticized image of a bunch of Kenny Roger looking MF’ers in vests, lazily paddlewheeling down the mighty Mississippi, drinking whisky and knowin’ when to hold them and when to fold them, but no one likes to remember the times those riverboats’ boilers exploded in a mass tragedy event killing hundreds if not thousands.
Would also be interesting to see stats on “players released by team who ended up starting elsewhere”…
Seems like there’s a LOT of ex-Skins who seemed to blossom elsewhere. Like we were criminally unable to coach up anyone, unable to develop talent or play players in a manner to optimize on their strengths…
You guys can’t just leave the past in the past. Who fucking cares about Ron ? There’s a bright future ahead. Stop listening to Gruden on Grant and Danny and just enjoy the team.
Yet he still takes credit for our newfound success
Surprisingly unsurprising
This chart is meaningless. There are good and bad franchises throughout the entirety of this list.
The Chicago Bears have mismanaged their team for years. Their owners are nepo-baby skinflints. So it makes sense most of their top picks are on the roster: top free agents avoid the Bears like the plague! Chicago has missed the playoffs in 12 of the last 14 seasons.
The Kansas City Chiefs are tied with the NY Jets at 22nd on the list. Does anyone think the Jets have managed their personnel as well as the Chiefs over the last several seasons? Kansas City’s Hunt family are model NFL owners. NYJ chairman Woody Johnson is a jackass
the george constance of GM
just do the “opposite”
Hoping AP can keep up the good work. I’m a little worried about Ben Sinnott, Luke McCaffrey,, Jordan Magee but otherwise elated with his picks!
Lol UCal is getting a GEM
I don’t think 36% is right. I think it’s 33%. Of the 18 1st/2nd rounders still in the league (dating all the way back to 2010 Trent Williams), we start 6 of them: JD5, Sainristil, Quan Martin, Cosmi, Jon Allen and Daron Payne. 6 of 18 = 33%
But, this is assuming that it is counting from players who are still active in the league. So for us, guys like Dwayne Haskins and Derrius Guice aren’t counted either way. [This](https://www.instagram.com/p/DGE8qYnJjUn/) is where the graphic is originally from.
The other 12 guys off the team, or not yet starting:
1. Johnny Newton
2. Ben Sinnott
3. Emmannuel Forbes
4. Jahan Dotson
5. Phidarian Mathis
6. Jamin Davis
7. Chase Young
8. Montez Sweat
9. Brandon Scherff
10. Preston Smith
11. Morgan Moses
12. Trent Williams
Thank god that Ron was bad at drafting players
Because if he wasn’t we wouldn’t have JD