I’m currently in the draft Carter camp, trade down if you can for him. The defense could be really good next season with him taking that edge spot opposite Landry with Simmons and Sweat in the middle.
I’m currently in the draft Carter camp, trade down if you can for him. The defense could be really good next season with him taking that edge spot opposite Landry with Simmons and Sweat in the middle.
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We are a bad team, a QB is not going to help. Trade down, thats it should be nothing else.
I’m all for Carter and trading down but I believe Landry won’t be here.
The problem I have with this is that they’re basically saying build the team out and get a qb when surrounding pieces are good enough. The problem in my opinion with this method is that in recent years it has completely blown up in teams faces when they are “a quarterback away” and make a big splash to get one (Broncos and Jets).
And the last place I want to be in is a Colts or Steelers situation where you have a somewhat competitive team that is held back by old ass retread qbs who are closer to retirement homes than playoffs. And in the colts case, the one season that they are bad enough to select a qb highly, their best option was to draft a guy who had 16 college starts and was bad in them.
The pick won’t be Carter, it will literally cost Callahan his job if a Darnold/Levis combo bomb next year. A rookie QB buys some time maybe…
Carter is great but you’re kidding yourself if you think Callahan is going to risk his entire career on a FA rebound lol
It’s wonderful, trade down with a (likely) bad team whose 1sts we will have. You still get top players at other foundational positions. It’s the kind of capital that kick-started the Jon Robinson era and led to some of the most fun, competitive football anyway of us (besides the Late 90s/00s fans) have ever watched..
That being said, I understand wanting to get your guy. A Quarterback that’s *that* dude changes *everything*. Not having everything around at first seems silly, but I think we’d learn quickly that the tail could wag the dog there. When (most) front offices learn they have an S-tier talent at QB, they move heaven and earth in an attempt to put pieces around them/protect them.
For my own sanity, I’m trying to convince myself to believe in Cam Ward, if that’s the play. But wow would I love Abdul Carter or a trade down too.
I’m pretty sure Abdul Carter does not rank up there with Myles Garrett(zero wins rookie year 2017) .If Cam Ward is at LEAST Baker Mayfield good(8 wins rookie year 2018), why not take the wins? I can run off so many top edge rushers who were picking high the following year, kid from the jags, will Anderson Texans, Clowney with the Texans, Myles Garrett, all these “can’t miss” edge players don’t really translate to wins. Draft is WAY to deep at edge to fall in love with just one.. theres literally two good QBs in the draft who today are better options than will Levis.
There is so much here…
>The analytic standard is normally that the quarterback position is so important that a franchise has to take a quarterback at the top of the draft if it needs one.
Starts off strong!
>But many draft analysts don’t feel that any of this year’s quarterbacks are truly worth the first overall selection.
Cool cool cool. So we’re going with the football bro’s approach over the statistically better one?
>The AFC is currently loaded, and the Titans shouldn’t use the No. 1 pick on a middle-of-the-pack QB.
Holy conclusory logic, batman! If we knew today which rookie QBs would be great or terrible or middle of the pack QBs before they took a snap in the NFL, then there would be no need for these discussions.
>The Titans should draft edge rusher Abdul Carter
Who is himself not as strong of a DE prospect as former drafts
>or cornerback/wide receiver Travis Hunter
Who is also not without his question marks. Is he an elite CB? Is he an elite WR? Is he worth this high of a pick if he’s not playing both ways? He’s awfully skinny – can he hold up in the NFL?
>instead of forcing a competitive window where one does not exist.
First off, how does drafting a QB “force a competitive window?” It absolutely doesn’t. Second, is the goal not to improve the competitiveness of the team? Is this dude really saying, “Ah well, these AFC teams are really good so we should just resign ourselves to suck until Mahomes and Allen retire and give us a chance?” Screw that. Get better.
>They can be satisfied with Will Levis
No the hell we can’t.
>while trying to build the rest of the team for when a top quarterback is finally available.
Yeah and when’s that gonna be? Not next year, because next year’s crop of QBs isn’t much better than this year’s. Maybe the year after that? Are we really going to give Will f’ing Levis 4 years before we take a stab at a QB? And then what happens when that “top quarterback” that’s “finally available” isn’t as good as we thought they were? See the problem? This is why the “analytic standard” says to draft QB early and often when you don’t have one.
>The Titans have already suggested they are thinking this way with team president Chad Brinker’s comment that the Titans “will not pass on a generational talent” in the draft.
This keeps getting thrown around as if there is a generational talent in this draft. I don’t see one. If we pass on QB to draft a non-generational talent, Brinker should be the next front office personnel dude that Ms. Amy cans.
I’m currently on the Abdul Carter train. We badly need pass rush help, and he’s an elite prospect at a huge position of need.
I’d still be happy if we took Ward, but I only want to take a QB if the front office is confident that they’re able to become a franchise QB.
I’ve gaslit myself to being fine with whatever we do. I’m going to act like whoever we drafted is head and shoulders above the rest of the field.
“Be satisfied with Will Levis”… right too many jobs depend on succes this year. Being satisfied is pretty optimistic here
This isn’t the Kenny Pickett or Ridder draft. 1 QB has a pretty unanimous first round grade, we need a QB. This is only complicated if you’re dumb
I think there’s a good chance Callahan is gone after next season unless we WAY over preform, so the GM has no need to draft a QB when he can set up this job to be attractive for a top HC candidate. Cally was Ran’s guy. Trading back gives us ideally two firsts to move up and get a QB if we aren’t in range to already draft him. I like Ward, but I don’t think he’s going to come in and turn the team around like Daniels and Stroud did.
I’m fine with not drafting a QB.
I’m not fine with starting Mayo Monkey again.
If we don’t draft a QB, we need to pick up someone in free agency. Callahan knows he’s done if he doesn’t deliver vast improvement this year, there’s no way he’ll accept being forced to trot out Will Levis again.
Not even Mr. Magoo would be satisfied with Will Levis.
I don’t care whether it’s addressed by draft or FA, but I cannot take another season watching Levis or Rudolph lead this offense. I want a different QB, however that happens
Ah okay you just wait for the top QB to be available, easy.
Ward is a top 5 pick in this draft no matter how you cut it, the reason to take him is that you only get so many shots at QBs, particularly ones at the top of the draft. It doesn’t cost you any extra capital, and doesn’t restrict your options going forward.
If the team or the player isn’t ready, sit him for the season. Put in the work and develop him.
If you get to the next year, or the year after, and there’s a QB you like more you can still draft them. It’s all about maximising your chances of getting a difference maker.
Sitting around waiting for a guy that you’re enamored with and potentially giving up more picks to get him is worse. You’re trusting your evaluation too much, and risking the whole team because of it.
Even worse, you will eventually be compelled to take whoever is available out of desperation. You might like that person even less, and might not feel you have the opportunity to sit him if you feel it’s needed.
If you really hate the player you take whatever anyone is offering that gives the most picks in return. Being overly worried about which non-qb you get isn’t worth it, Carter almost certainly isn’t worth multiple other players.