Do New York #Jets Have Right General Manager? (BADLANDS)
It’s really weird to sit here honestly and just think about where we are as a franchise because there’s been times where we’ve been even when we were on uneven ground with Zach Wilson where we’re like I just don’t know if he’s going to be the guy. You were so sure that the Jets had a core for the first time in a while and then Douglas whiffed on the offensive line too many times. The Rogers experiment was a disaster. Salah wasn’t a very good head coach. It’s just everything happened so fast that the talent that you had accumulated couldn’t overcome that situation. I I’ll close with this light rant because we hit all our questions. I we’ve been subject to such bad GM work IDs to Mckagn to Douglas that I I I’m much more confident like every Jet fan in Glenn than I am of Muji. Muji’s young. He has to prove himself. He has no connections really throughout the league yet. Not at the level you want to have. We like I think we were with I mean you didn’t have enough time to be patient with it.
But with McAden and Douglas, I think we were quite patient before it was enough already and we will be equally patient with Muji. Now the structure is different. The Jets have long been
at least under Mckagnet and Douglas were GM first organizations. They’re are now a head coach first organization. Now, what that means in practice and who gets credit for what and how it translates to the field, that remains to be seen over the next few years, but you know, I’m just fascinated to see what kind of GM this ends up being. I think there’s been some minor moves this year. He’s young. He’s going to work himself into the role. I think to an extent, you try to take confidence from a guy like Spielman being around, right? and the process that they work through and his background and Glenn having confidence in him, but it’s I I’m not going to judge anything on this off season because it was such a we went all in last dance Jets for two years and now we’re sort of picking up the pieces and cleaning it up. I I just cannot be subject to another Joe Douglas, Mike McCagnon, John ID level GM because Tann again for all his flaws and he was very uneven. He made a lot of mistakes towards the end as all GMs ultimately do. These that’s how these things end. Either you win a Super Bowl or you get fired. Was a winning GM and was consistently in the playoffs. And prior to him, Bradway was a bad GM ultimately, but did make the playoffs a couple of times. And prior to him, Parcels was really good at his job for the brief period he was here. So, they’re due to have a guy that can figure it out. And look, we just we just don’t know. But that’s just me, a long-winded way of saying I can’t believe the Jets had Mike McCagden for as long as they did and had Joe Douglas for as long as they did. You’re talking like 11 years between those two guys. It’s like insane. Insane.
It’s totally insane. And the fact that, you know, they had so many swings to fix the most obvious and they both they both really couldn’t do the same thing. They both couldn’t build an offensive line and they both couldn’t get quarterback right. And some of it too is the way you miss right where McGnney felt like the effort on the offensive line was just poor. Douglas knew how important the offensive line was. He just missed a lot and let things spiral. And at the end of the day, he might have contributed to it turning around because the Simpson signing looks good. We think Titman’s going to be solid. Although the Jets are telling everybody that he’s in a competition to win his to hold his starting job, which is bizarre. Uh if AVT could stay healthy and then Olu, but it was just too late. It was just too late. Like you don’t really you don’t get seven to eight or nine years to build an offensive line. Like maybe he would have taken Membu and then this would have been his offensive line, but you just don’t get that much time in the NFL to do that. He had he had too many misses. And then quarterback, of course, McCagn’s famously being Hackenburgg and Douglas’s famously being Zach Wilson.
I mean, you can argue those are two of the top 10 worst quarterback picks in the history of the NFL.
I mean, I would say Christian Hackenberg is like the worst second round quarterback in NFL history. He’s in the discussion.
Yeah, I would say so. And then Zack, a lot of his numbers run comparable to like Jamarcus Russell and players of that ilk. though. It’s um it’s sometimes it’s not that you missed, it’s sometimes how badly you missed. Because if a quarterback you if a quarterback is okay enough that you’re waiting a couple years to figure out if he’s the guy, you get chances to build the team around him that you might not normally have had. Although Douglas still got those cuz he had he had Rogers and it didn’t work out Rogers and he had other chances to build the roster certain ways. So, it just didn’t work. And I I’m a little concerned with Mushi, but it’s so early that I’m not sitting here saying like Muji will stink no matter what. That’s not I I just think they really need to learn how the day three of the draft works. And it was, and once again, maybe I’ll be wrong, but I thought it was it was a borderline like amateur hour feel this year with day three of the draft where I was sitting there and I was like, I I don’t know who has control of the room right now, but they just they don’t have a feel even if they like these guys. You have to have a feel and accumulate assets. If you don’t just take a player multiple rounds earlier, whatever. And this isn’t just this isn’t an Aryan Smith conversation. This is the entire day three outside of Malachi Moore. So, and I didn’t like their UDFA process either. I think you need to have a UDFA to play a part in your 53man roster. And I don’t really have expectations for any of these guys, too. So, uh, it’s one year and it’s it’s just obvious that Glenn knows how to evaluate personnel because the first three picks for the Jets made complete like so much sense that it was we’ve been waiting for this boring of a logical draft forever. Yeah. Okay. You took who’s probably the best tackle in the draft and is a plays right tackle at your need for right tackle. Good job. You took a high floor tight end in the top 50 for an offense that needs an on the line of scrimmage tight end. And then in the third round, yeah, I don’t know if you desperately needed a corner, but he’s one of the best players on the board. He fits your scheme, so take him. Y
and so it it we got to see. We got to see. And we didn’t free agency we knew would kind of be a dud this year, but the Stevens contract is they’re going to have to stand on that. It’s either going to make them look really really smart or it’s going to be everybody sitting here and going everybody thought this was an overpay and a weird move except you. What? Like you do have to hit on those.
Yeah.
And um you know, a credit to Douglas who missed a lot in free agency. He had a couple like DJ Reed, you know, and and a guy like Simpson. He had a couple and that they can really flip your roster around as well, those mid-tier contracts. So, yeah, we got to see ultimately where it goes. I guess at the end of the day, as much as this is dumb, Muji will be remembered and judged for whoever the long-term quarterback is of this team. And it, you know, odds are most likely that it’s not Justin Fields, but and if it is Justin Fields, he plays with the most house money any Jets GM has ever had. But yeah, that’s what he’ll be remembered for and and we’ll see where that goes. All right, Warroom Room, thank you for listening. Badlandstoj.com for your live show tickets. Check back on the feed for more content throughout the weekend. We’re only a few weeks away and we’re we’re in rhythm as we always are. Uh appreciate all the discussion in the Discord. Keep it cranking. It helps us figure out what to discuss here. Uh thank you again and we will talk to you soon. Underdog Fantasy, it’s almost that time of the year. All drafts are flowing. We’ve been messing around with some different best baseball drafts. Got to get the reps. Got to get comfortable going into August. Use July to sharpen up. Promo code Badlands for a deposit match. Connor, how’s your draft game been so far?
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4 comments
Since they had a combination of cap constraints and not having your complete scouting/analytics dept for this draft or free agency, I'm willing to wait until next year's draft/FA before I begin to understand if Moog is the guy for the job. At the end of the day it's clearly AG who's in charge so I'm not sure how much Moog's moves will be his own or a reflection of what AG is dictating he wants done.
Anything is better than Joe Douglas.
He had SEVEN top 15 picks and people lauded him for getting good players in the top 15.
He didnt hit on a single 3rd or 4th round pick.
He left the team with an unholy dead cap situation and his "talented" rosters never sniffed .500
Wow. I know we're thirsty but can you not start the "cut Moog loose" shit? Calm down.
The Jets future quarterback is not on the team, Justin fields is a running back playing the position. Funny thing about it does manning decline to play with the jets if drafted by the organization. Jets, win 5 and under the best DT class in years and you don't fortify the position with a bookend with Quinnen, gotta scratch my head.