Dodgers prospects + more for potential Tarik Skubal trade

Dodgers prospects + more for potential Tarik Skubal trade

So, let’s talk trades then. What would it take for the Dodgers to go out and get Scooble? Uh, let’s talk some names. I’m going to go through a bunch of names here, then we’ll talk packages, and you tell me yes or no if you would make this offer if you’re the Dodgers. The first name and the most interesting name to me is Tyler Glass. Um, Alden Gonzalez is reporting his name has come up in trades. It has not been reported that it’s been with a Terrick Scubel trade, but as you and I said earlier in the show, we both find it hard to believe that the Dodgers would trade Glass now unless a starting pitcher is coming back who is better than Tyler Glass. Now, there aren’t very many of those in baseball. So, whether it’s in conjunction with a scoo trade or in a scubble trade, it makes sense. And he makes sense in a scubble trade, by the way, because it gives Detroit a guy who helps them immediately. They’re basically getting an 85% replica of Terk Scubble in the form of Tyler Glass now when he’s available. I think Glass now Win Health is like a top 15 pitcher in Major League Baseball. Of course, Win Healthy, massive caveat. He’s also affordable. He’s not signed to a $40 million contract. And he’s under team control for three more years on his contract. It’s two years. And then it’s like a $30 million team option that if that gets declined, it’s a$22 and a half million dollar player option. So if you’re the Tigers, you’re giving up one year of schools control and you’re getting three years of glass now control as a starting point. And if glass now produces like glass now has been producing aside from like the start of this season, that contract is going to be a undermarket value contract. Totally. Totally. So he’s piece number one we’re going to talk about. Piece number two is Emtt Sheen. Just the other thing Oh, sorry. Real real quick, Jeff. The the other thing with the with the Gonzalez with the Alden’s report about Glass now is the other thing we don’t know exactly is if teams are bringing him up when they talk to the Dodgers or if the Dodgers have put him out there. I tend to think it’s the former. Totally, totally agree. The second name on this list is EMTT Sheen. Just turned 26, had a 2.82 RA in 73 innings this past season. Four more years of team control, not even arbitration eligible until 12 months from now. obvious you can see why Detroit would be interested in EMTT Sheen if you’re looking to get pitching and young pitching specifically. Shien’s pretty much the best guy out there as probably across the league when you’re talking about a 26-year-old who’s already been incredible both in the regular season and the postseason. Four more years of team control. The value there is obvious behind that. Four outfield prospects at the top of the Dodgers rankings. We talked about Depala Hope, Cano, and Serotaa in some order. You could also talk about James Tibs and Zack Heard who are outfield prospects at the upper levels of the Miners who are a little bit closer. Um, you’ve got other pitchers. You’ve got Jackson Ferris, the top pitching prospect in the organization who has not debuted. You’ve got Robleski who’s been great but whose role is like kind of shrug emoji, Ben Kasparius, Ditto, Gavin Stone, River Ryan coming back from injury. And then of course other position players like Dalton Rushing, Alex Freeland, top 50, top 100 type prospects who are like major league ready right now, uh, but don’t necessarily have an obvious place to play for the Dodgers. So, we’re going to start in one place, Anthony, and we’re just going to keep going on a journey to see how interested you are or are not in these packages. And I’m building, as we’ve said, I want to emphasize this in case we get clipped out here. The assumption on every single one of these offers by Anthony and myself is that Terrick school is signing an extension after this deal is agreed upon. That part of the negotiations are we want to talk to Scott Boris. We want to hammer out an extension. If we agree, then we move forward. Okay, so let’s just start basic level. If the Tigers call and say we want glass now and we want EMTT Sheen and then maybe you’re throwing some lesser pieces whether it’s like a Landon Knack or a Bobby Miller or some lower level prospects that aren’t like top 100 guys but if it’s just Sheen Glass now and a couple lottery tickets or a couple like you know replacementish level players your answer to the Tigers is what? It’s a little bit it’s it gets a little painful uh when you have Glassnell and Shien in this, but I say yes. Yeah. To me, this is this would be a quick one. I hate to do it. I think we need to put respect on Glassnell’s name. As I said on social media today, he’s been awesome. He’s made 40 starts, which isn’t 60 starts, but it ain’t 10 starts either. And more importantly, he was freaking awesome in the 2025 World Series. Not only that, he showed he showed that dog that a lot of the fan base was questioning if he had by doing what he did out of the bullpen, too. Totally agree. So, Glass Now hurts. I think Emtt Sheen’s amazing. Uh, but we’re talking about Trick Scooble here. We’re talking about a stud and I go out and get Ter Scubble if that’s the trade. So, we both agree that that one’s a yes. Let’s go a step further now. Glass now EMTT Sheen. And then they say, “And we want either Depala, Hope, or Cano. Whichever of those three guys we like the most, we get to handpick one of those three top outfield prospects as well.” I posted this on social media and ask people to vote. I’ll read you the results real quick. Twitter said 55% of people said easy yes to glass now, Shien, and one of the top three outfielders. 25% I’d think about it and then say yes. So 80% are on the yes side. 13% I’d think about it and then say no. 7% said easy no for you Anthony Sheen Glass now and one of the top three outfield prospects your answer would be what? It hurts again but it’s a yes. So you’re you’re in the thinking but I think I fall yes here. Yeah. Yeah. I I don’t like doing this and if I’m the Dodgers I try to pull Sheen back. Yeah. Um I say if you’re the Tigers this is like the non-negotiable, right? I you could make a case Shien’s the most valuable asset that they’d be getting in this trade. I would I think so. I think Shien’s their number one prospect if you if he were considered a prospect still. He’s not. But like I he’s their number one guy in the system. He he just he he is. So you would you would rather fight for Shien to come out of this deal than for Glass now to come out of this deal? Well, I’m with you. If I’m the Tigers, Shien is the non-starter guy. Yeah. If you if you’re talking to me about removing him, then this conversation is over. Come back when you’re ready to have a real one. So then I try to pull back glass now. Yeah. And say that’s what I would do. And then say give them another pitching prospect that that hasn’t proven it yet in the big leagues. Yeah. Okay. But you’re still Yes. If if the hard line is glass now sheen and an outfield prospect, one of the top three. See, this is where I’m you’re I’m teetering on yes and no because on one hand, you’ve got to go pay the guy also. So, you’re not getting like a discount financially on this guy because he’s end up going to get paid like the highest paid pitcher ever. Then I’ve got the question of like, do I want to pay $400 million to any starting pitcher with the way that arms have been falling apart lately? That terrifies me. 350, whatever the number is that he gets. Um, I I I don’t I I probably don’t It’s probably not a dealbreaker to trade one of these three outfield prospects. Maybe I negotiate a little bit if I’m the Dodgers and I say we like Depala the best or we like Hope the best and so you can have the other guy. But at the end of the day, I think I’m still teetering. Yes. Which brings me to the last one that I want to throw at you. If it’s glass now, if it’s Sheen, if it’s one of the top three outfield prospects and they say we want whether it’s Dalton Rushing, Justin Robleski, Jackson Ferris, the top pitching prospect, uh Alex Freeland, like another top 50 to 100 type prospect, valuable player. What would you say? Twitter, by the way, real quick, 42% still an easy yes. So that goes from 55 to 42. 27% say I’d think about it and then say yes. So we’ve got 69% of people still saying yes to this deal. 20% would think about it and say no and then 11% say this for them is an easy no. If it’s glass now sheen one of the outfielders and one of rushing freeland Ferris or Robleski what would you say? Rushing Freeland Ferris Robleski like they get to pick one of those four guys. Yeah. and he’s signing an extension. I’m I’m doing it. Okay, this is where I think we’ve crossed the line. And I know it seems ridiculous to like not trade for Ter Scubble over Daltton Rushing or some Justin Roleski or something like that. But I just think, man, you’d be putting so many eggs financially and trade chipwise into one basket. I think that the risk averse part of me, Anthony, that would be terrifying. Yeah, I get it. I like I don’t want to do that deal. Um, the So, okay, the add-on piece to that last proposal for me is like I don’t really care about that. Okay, I’m good moving rushing cuz he’s blocked. I’m good moving Robleski cuz he’s blocked. Ferris, okay, I’m fine with that. I don’t think he’s going to be a front line kind of guy. Um, and then who was the other? Who was the fourth? Freeland, who’s blocked. Freeland who I think is just going to be he he has a chance to be a regular pretty solid not great player I think. Um so I actually would be okay with that. Those add-ons are are not the piece that for me is making or breaking. It’s it’s the the hard part is glass now and one of the outfield prospects. Yeah, it’s so it’s such an interesting trade again because I think it’s so hard to quantify when the guy gets to sign a market value extension immediately, right? Like most of the time when you go out and you trade and you give up the entire farm system for insert player here, it’s because you’re getting one and a half two and a half years of value where like you’re paying a guy 15 million who would be worth 45 on the open market to trade all of this for Scooble and then to pay him not just at fair market pro probably above fair market to get him off of the market especially if you’re extending him because Boris is going to make you pay for theux of not getting him to free agency. Absolutely. And I see some people saying, “Hey, Boris would never allow his client to do this.” I mean, he’s done he’s done massive extensions before. Totally. And if if if Scoo says, “Hey, 350 or 400 doesn’t matter to me, the idea of playing in LA in warm weather and being on a team that’s going to win championships for the next or compete for championships for the next decade is what I want to do.” Like Boris isn’t going to say, “Hold on, we could probably get another 32 million out of Colorado if we wait a few months, right?” Like at the end of the day, not doing that. Yeah. More has to do with what Scuba wants than what Boris wants would be my point. And so it’s an interesting exercise. Again, I I think the Tigers I will I will say I’ll say this also though, you don’t stick with the Boris Corp if you’re not going to listen to the Boris Corp. Yeah, that’s true. That’s true. Um, do you think the lockout, potential lockout December 1st, 2026, how real of a factor is that? Because last time this happened, a lot of guys ended up with some funky deals signed because they were either just trying to get the deal in before the lockout happened so they could get some guaranteed money or then they’re scrambling during spring training when a bunch of teams had already blown their budgets. Yeah. Uh, for this kind of deal, he’s going to get market value no matter what. So, I don’t think it matters for him. I agree with you. I think I think the schools of the world get paid what the schools of the world are worth. And uh it’s everybody else that should be a little bit more worried about this, right? Yeah. Yeah. It’s the it’s the second third tier type of guys, those middling players and the not quite superstar players. Uh Tim with the super chat. Boris is probably demanding 500 million or more, not 350 million. It’s possible, right? Like because he knows he’s got the Tigers over a barrel to some degree and he’s like, “You’re going to pay me a premium if you want my guy not to test free agency. Cuz the other piece that’s worth pointing out is for so long the risk was, well, what if a guy gets hurt? I mean, in sports nowadays, like that threat is kind of empty. These guys get hurt and then they still get paid the exact same money. Now, if he has a second Tommy John surgery, that would probably cost him a couple hundred million dollars because a second Tommy John surgery is hard to come back from. So that’s where I think if you’re scubable, you’re probably got to do some sort of math equation in your head and say it’s not like this is a zerorisk proposal either. It might be lowish risk, but it’s not zero. No, totally. And look, if you want to say half of Otani’s contract was for the pitching side, he got 350 after a second elbow surgery. Yeah. Yeah. So with that, you could also tell Boris, two of the best pitchers in the league are making less than 400. Yeah. And you know, you can you can kind of have that negotiation, too. But I would I’m still very torn on this. Like I’m saying yes now because I just like you know what here make it you have to you have 30 seconds to make a call. Yeah. Just okay. Let’s go get scoo. But I’m not fully full on sold on this. Um, part of the reason though that I would say like if the part of me that wants to say yes is because the dude absolutely shoved it in the playoffs. Yep. He has he has a two erra in in his postseason career, which was basically just uh the last two seasons. But uh look, he’s he’s pitched six games. I’m going to read you his lines. Six innings, no runs, 6K. This is this is in 24. Six innings, uh, no runs, sixks. This is against Houston. Then against Cleveland, same year, seven shut out, 8ks. Six innings, uh, five earned, was not a great outing, 6ks. That’s his that’s his clunker. And then this season against Cleveland, seven and two/3, one run, 14ks. Crazy. Against Seattle. These are all of these starts are are on the road. Yeah, all of them. Uh against Seattle, seven innings, two runs, nineks. Pretty solid start. His last start, and that was in game seven. Six innings, uh one earned, 13ks. All of that gives you a 2.04 RA in six postseason starts where he’s never where he’s never come out. Yeah. and he’s pitched at least six innings in every one of them. Yeah, it’s crazy. And those are important stats for a team like the Dodgers because that’s that those are the waters you’re going to be swimming in. So, you want to know a guy can pitch at that level. So, um Payton asks, “If they offer Hope and Apollo, what else would they need to add for Scooble?” Like, let’s just say the Tigers say, “Hey, this is a rebuild. We don’t really want Tyler Glass now. We’re not interested in a guy who’s going to be here for three years.” Um, I I think I don’t think you can go get Scooble without Emtt Sheen being in there because if I’m the Tigers, that’s the guy who is the only one who falls into a category of I have seen him shove at the major league level and he has four more years of team control. Exactly. Everyone else, you’re either projecting shoving on one hand or like the the team control is is winding down already. So, I think it’s Sheen. I think it’s Hope. I think it’s Depala. I think you just keep going. Like I think it’s Dalton rushing in this trade also. Maybe it’s Alex Freeland. I I just think it’s going to be like she and Hope Depala Freeland and Rushing. I think it’s a package like that. And and if they want Ferris instead of Freeland, like it’s kind of take your pick on what positions you’re interested in. But if Glass now is not in this, it’s going to be like five of the top prospects that the Dodgers have. And that’s coming from one of the better farm systems in the league. So yeah, uh Mike says, “Don’t forget our best pitcher from 2024 is coming back fully healthy, Gavin Stone, who could easily take over after Glass Now Sheen if traded.” Uh I love Gavin Stone. I am a big believer in what he has inside of him. The shoulder thing terrifies me. Shoulder injuries are I’m not saying it’s impossible to come back from. I’m just saying you mess up your whole shoulder. And again, we reported here. We were the ones who talked to him at spring training. I asked about what happened in the shoulder and we kind of broke the news that it wasn’t a simple shoulder surgery. I think his quote was it was basically everything in there got replaced. That’s terrifying. We haven’t hit heard firm updates on on how he’s doing coming back from that. I am desperately hoping he’s okay because he was freaking awesome. But I think with Gavin Stone more so than River Ryan who’s coming back from Tommy John which is pretty straightforward in 2025. I think Stone the health piece is what worries me a little bit. Yeah, there’s there’s massive reason for concern there. We’ve seen these should shoulder surgeries derail aces in their prime. Yeah. Uh because they’re just they’re so difficult to come back from. If this was Tommy John, your confidence level is way higher that he returns to what he was and continue to and can continue to progress and develop. Um the shoulder stuff is like you just kind of gotta wait and see. Yeah, it’s hilarious. I’m just on Twitter right now. Uh Rays have discussed Ryan Pepio Shane Baz in a Catel Marte trade. So it’s funny we’re talking about Glass Now and Pepio who was sent in exchange for for Glass Now might be headed to uh to Arizona. Uh JRod says, “Do whatever it takes. I want to ruin baseball.” Um there you go. There you go. So, and and that’s a and that’s a fair that’s a that’s an attitude that a lot of fans are taking. And I’m not here to tell you that that’s a wrong attitude. I will say though that they’re ruining baseball without TK school, too. And and that is part of the uh okay, do I need to give up that much because I have other holes I need to fill and can I use those guys? And maybe it maybe including one or two of those guys is an overpaper for someone else, but you have other needs. The rotation right now is not one of them. Yep. Agreed. Agreed. And I think the thing you have to take into account if you’re the Dodgers is they are trying so hard to thread the needle and they have done it better than probably any team in modern history at pushing your chips to the center of say ever. Yeah. And and winning now because they know Freddy’s contract is coming to an end. They know Muki’s prime is coming to an end. They know Maxy’s prime is coming to an end. And so they’re trying to win. Like these guys are here now. It’s not just about like winning the NLS 20 years in a row. It’s about winning as many titles as you can win. And yet if you hit on some of these prospects that would be going out in a Google trade, those are the guys that make it so that NL West titles and World Series titles five years from now, right? There’s always going to be more guys you can sign, but that you’ve got to balance this. And I know it’s impossible because you’re trying to win now, but it’s like trading all these guys for Scooble. How much does that impact your World Series odds today versus how how many how much are your World Series odds boosted two years from now by still having Hope, Depala, Rushing, and Shien in the system. Right. Right. And Otani has eight more years and Yamamoto has 10 more years. Like you want to keep winning. Yeah. Long term. and and to to sustain that, you’re going to need some of these young guys to hit. Out of curiosity, does trading for a pitcher and signing him to like an 8 to 10year contract scare you? Cuz a pitcher because of the arm stuff, it just and I guess I would say even impact on a baseball game once every 5 days. Dodgers case, six or seven days. Um, but like there’s something about like if they’re going and trading for a position player that makes me less nervous than giving 350 400 million to Scubble. Scubble’s a much better player at his position than Kyle Tucker. And I’m not saying I would pay Tucker more money than I would pay Scubble, but there’s something about getting Tucker and knowing that like the injury risk is far less and he’s going to play every single day that that somehow scares me less, I think, than handing a $400 million contract to a pitcher, even if he’s a stud. Yeah, I I agree. I’m in the same boat as you there. Um and also along like this Yamamoto deal at the end is going to get probably ugly. Uh but we’re okay with that. like and he’s also 25 26 like Scooble’s going to be 31 by the time this one starts. Exactly. Exactly. And and you you build that in you build that into the expectation. But the reason why Yes. It is harder because the last you let’s say Scooble here the last let’s say you you trade for him tomorrow and you extend him the next day and that extension is is let’s say it’s seven years. So you have him for eight. Yeah. that takes him into his age 37 season, something like that. Let’s say from ages 35, 36, 37 are going to be real ugly. And there’s a there’s a real possibility that he doesn’t even from a performance standpoint doesn’t deserve to be in your rotation, but you’re paying him that much money and you got to throw him. I mean, I think if you’re at that point, I think the Dodgers have I don’t know if they do it to a stud like that, but I don’t think the Dodgers are we’ve got to throw this guy because we’re paying him this money. I think if he stunk stunk if he was cooked, I think they’d find a way to to make things go away. Yeah. And we haven’t seen them face that, right? It’s I was just going to say that we haven’t they haven’t come to that crossroads with anybody yet. Chris Taylor’s the closest, but obviously we’re not talking about back-to-back Sai Young guy, although a guy who had done a lot for the organization, but also a guy who wasn’t making like 16 mil or something like that, wasn’t he? I mean, not cheap, but not anything you couldn’t part with. Like, Scoo was going to be making 4050 at that point. Yeah, you’re right. You’re right. I’m with you. I’m with you. It’s crazy stuff. Again, just turned 29, so the contract extension would basically start in his age 30 season. Um, so you know, factor that in. Now you’re getting the one year of team control. So like you spread it out, you know, maybe rip up the one year of team control and then it’s an eight-year deal or something like that. So it’s only I mean Okay, now I have a I have a question for you. Great. What are you willing to pay for one year? And Boris says, “We’re not We’ll talk to you when free agency starts, but we’re not doing an extension unless the number starts with a five.” She is off the table. No, would you do like what? Like I think I’d have to think really hard if they said we want glass now and Depala. I think I’d have to think really hard. Same. Same. I’m with you. I think I would do Glass Now straight up. And I would say the three outfielders are off limits. Take your pick from the rest of that crew. But like Freeland. Yeah. Yeah. You want Serotaa, you want Dalton rushing. Like and again that’s going to sound crazy. Tigers fans are going to be offended by that. But it’s like you’re getting three years of glass now and a top prospect in exchange for one year of terubble. I don’t blame you for the Tigers for saying no to that. I’m just saying no team in their right mind would go look at what the Padres’s have done when they’ve shipped out the farm for guys that then like a year and a half later they’re just gone for nothing. It’s madness. Totally. Totally. And a little bit to this point that you’re making here, we have seen the Dodgers be ultra aggressive and overpay, right? like some would say overpay when it’s just money. They’ve been incredibly frugal when it comes to prospect capital. They have made some shrewd smart trades. uh and you the Dodgers call you and you’re start you talk about a trade with them and there’s a there’s an ongoing joke in front offices that like you just you know you’re going to lose this trade if they’re talking prospects and and in this situation yeah they’re going to be in because it’s a big name and the Dodgers are they’re gunning for it. They’re going they’re trying to win as many as they possibly can with these contracts these big hefty contracts they have on the books. Yeah. But they’ve been very stingy is probably not the right word, but they’ve been very conservative with how they’ve moved prospects around in in these trades and sometimes to the detriment, right? Like Gavin Lux or or Cartaya or those guys, right, that they’ve held on to too long. Um they’ve hugged the prospects a little bit. So, if you get a team like the Mets now who feels like they might be getting desperate and they have some guys who are interesting, uh, and they say, “You know what? We’re going to give up the farm for school and we don’t care what the cost is. We’re going to extend him.” Uh, I don’t then I think the Dodgers just go, “All right, man. Go ahead. You do that.” And I only I only say that I think that could happen is because they’ve been so conservative with how they’ve been willing to to put these top prospects into deals. Here’s the crazier thing. I think I’d pay like if I’m the Dodgers I and and Scoo’s not going to extend, I would say that we’ll talk to we’ll talk trades at the deadline then. Like I want to make sure he’s healthy on July 31st before I go trade for him. I don’t care if Scooble pitches for my team, you know, the first twothirds of the season. I don’t need him then. Right. Exactly. So, it’s like, all right, fine. Let’s see if he gets through the season healthy and if he’s ready to go on August 1st, then we’ll talk trades. Like, I’m serious. I I would I would pay more for a healthy scoo at the deadline, I think, than I would for a healthy scoo right now. If in either situation, I’m told 0% chance we’re doing an extension. I don’t need him now. I don’t need him in May. Chances are though, the price goes up at the deadline. It’s possible. Yeah. And again, I’d be willing to pay more at the deadline because at least I know I’ve only got to get this guy across the finish line, which is now two and a half months, and not six and a half months. Sure. So, Sure.

“DodgerHeads” host Jeff Spiegel and Forbes’ senior MLB contributor Anthony Witrado discuss Tyler Glasnow, Emmet Sheehan, Josue De Paula and more players and prospects the Los Angeles Dodgers could potentially send to the Detroit Tigers in a Tarik Skubal trade.
#DodgerBlue #Dodgers #TarikSkubal

⚾️ New Dodgers bobbleheads: https://foco.vegb.net/3Peb5K
⚾️ Homage: https://homage.sjv.io/LXNAVa
⚾️ BreakingT: https://breakingt.com/DodgerBlue
⚾️ Subscribe: https://youtube.com/@dodgerblue1958
⚾️ Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/dodgerheads-by-dodgerblue-com/id1610389381
⚾️ Twitter: @DodgerBlue1958 | https://twitter.com/dodgerblue1958
⚾️ Instagram: @DodgerBlue1958 | https://instagram.com/dodgerblue1958/
⚾️ Facebook: https://facebook.com/Dodgerblue1958
⚾️ Website: https://dodgerblue.com/
⚾️ Watch parties: https://www.getplayback.com/room/dodgerblue1958