I know raw +/- is a very shaky statistic to use, and Dray will often be playing in lineups without Steph or maybe even without Steph and Jimmy, but still, this year it genuinely feels like we often play better without him.
This is hard to believe. Idk. I need to look at the stats myself
Since December is some serious cherry picking since he’s been out. Try the whole season.
Triple single with a poor plus/minus is just bad basketball. Period.
I’m not surprised. Without consistent shooters draymond’s minimal impact offensively is starting to rear its ugly head. Not to mention the fact that he constantly gets ejected from games for no reason literally hurts the morale of the team. I knew after I saw Draymond get ejected in that one game versus Orlando a couple years ago and made Steph cry I wanted him off the team. I am thankful for what he has done helped us four rings but he’s ran his course. Honestly a even consistently injured Anthony Davis at this point is a better player than Draymond and it hurts me to say that.
+/- isn’t good unless for significant amount of minutes.
This is why data in a vacuum is never helpful and why critical thinking is so important. How many games did he play in December? Is that a big enough sample size? What lineups did he play in and what was the plus minus overall? Whats his season plus minus?
Btw I’m in the “we’re better off without Draymond and we should trade him” camp. Not trying to defend him, just saying sometimes data like this is meaningless and we can easily make the mistake of using it to confirm our bias.
Hopefully, January 15th

Since December is a pretty small sample tbh
Fake nees
draymond “trade deadline” green
This is the +/- sitting the OKC massacre. It’d be far worse if Draymond had played that game.
Don’t tell crazy unc this or….

Truth
I think the baby is keeping him awake.
***SINCE DECEMBER***
That’s usually when curry is off the court too.
Oh you can bet for every negative point Draymond has prepared a thesis as to why it is the fault of Officials.
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I know raw +/- is a very shaky statistic to use, and Dray will often be playing in lineups without Steph or maybe even without Steph and Jimmy, but still, this year it genuinely feels like we often play better without him.
This is hard to believe. Idk. I need to look at the stats myself
Since December is some serious cherry picking since he’s been out. Try the whole season.
Triple single with a poor plus/minus is just bad basketball. Period.
I’m not surprised. Without consistent shooters draymond’s minimal impact offensively is starting to rear its ugly head. Not to mention the fact that he constantly gets ejected from games for no reason literally hurts the morale of the team. I knew after I saw Draymond get ejected in that one game versus Orlando a couple years ago and made Steph cry I wanted him off the team. I am thankful for what he has done helped us four rings but he’s ran his course. Honestly a even consistently injured Anthony Davis at this point is a better player than Draymond and it hurts me to say that.
+/- isn’t good unless for significant amount of minutes.
This is why data in a vacuum is never helpful and why critical thinking is so important. How many games did he play in December? Is that a big enough sample size? What lineups did he play in and what was the plus minus overall? Whats his season plus minus?
Btw I’m in the “we’re better off without Draymond and we should trade him” camp. Not trying to defend him, just saying sometimes data like this is meaningless and we can easily make the mistake of using it to confirm our bias.
Hopefully, January 15th

Since December is a pretty small sample tbh
Fake nees
draymond “trade deadline” green
This is the +/- sitting the OKC massacre. It’d be far worse if Draymond had played that game.
Don’t tell crazy unc this or….

Truth
I think the baby is keeping him awake.
***SINCE DECEMBER***
That’s usually when curry is off the court too.
Oh you can bet for every negative point Draymond has prepared a thesis as to why it is the fault of Officials.