I cannot believe this…
Nick Gosse breaks down some shocking new details that have dropped surrounding Kyle Tucker and discuss what it means going forward.
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Why shocked after what they’ve done in recent years? – more of the same.
Not worth $50 mil/yr for four years
This point I don't even care if the Blue Jays get. Kyle Tucker. My suggestion is forget about him and forget about Bo and work on getting a couple of relief pictures for the bullpen to strengthen that up. Honestly, I'm happy with the lineup and roster we already have. I think we're ready to compete. The length of time it is taken is absolutely absurd.
I would rather bo at this point
Jays know what cap damage they can handle and what they'll offload later. It's getting ridiculous. They just make their 8,10 year deal with an acceptable AAV. If the Mets win and hang themselves at $50M per year, 4 years so be it. That's Juan Soto money and Tucker is not Soto. ..Jays can opt for Bo if in range, or just go for Bellinger whose numbers are pretty good compared to Tucker. ~ Other options: A trade for Arizona's Ketel Marte or bullpen ace like San Diego's Mason Miller — but these would require big prospects and people like a Barger and Berrios to be sent packing.
Jays will sign him before the end of the week, does not wanna go to the loser Mets with no certainty
A 12 year deal is to much 8 years for 330 is good
200 mil for 4 years? that's insane.
Not worth more than 36 mil. For 7 years 😮
You should stream today
If Tucker is even considering this then he is prioritizing money over winning. Which hey…that's his right but the Jays should never go this high.
that straw post is crazy
This sis nuts, Jays offer or goodbye.
Do we still have Bellinger's number??
I cannot believe you don't have 2 million subscribers.
9/360 max IMO. Very few players signed for their age 37, 38, 39 years will produce at all in those years. Bogaerts contract is already a nightmare.
We’re always going up against NYM and Dodgers but never Red Sox and Yankees. Weird.
Watch someone else sign him.
It pains me to say this – BUT – Tucker knows he won't match 2022/23, he knows he has had injuries issues, he knows this could be his last contract … why turn down 400 million for 200 million? In 4 years will Tucker be able to get another 200 million in contracts at 34? Doubt it! Mets offer puts teams like the Jays willing to pay 400 over longer term in the driver seat – IMO. Could be wrong – but money talks louder than anything according to humans.
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Give him a deadline to sign. If he doesn’t, pivot to Bo. Can’t lose out on both.
Tucker…it’s the Mets😂😂😂
Love the uodates. Keeo it going big dog
This changes everything
No one REALLY knows where Tucker is going to land (including myself), but here's why I still think the Jays still have the upper hand:
For a moment, let's assume the report of a 3-4 year/$150-$200 million offer by the Mets is true and accurate, and that both the Mets and the Dodgers are only willing/able to do a short term contract for Tucker and not a longterm one.
Firstly, this puts the Dodgers in a tough position. At a $50 million AAV, I'm not sure they are willing or capable of going, say, as high as $60 million per year in order to blow the Mets' offer out of the water to get him. Because if the Mets are willing to go 4 years/$200 million, a 3-year/$180 million ($60 million AAV) isn't going to cut it. Nor do I think the Dodgers are willing to go much higher than $50-$55 million for Tucker. Especially given the value proposition compared to Ohtani's contract.
Secondly, and most importantly, this is why I believe the Jays still have the upper hand: because the MLB and player's association will be negotiating for/against a potential salary cap after the 2026 season. It's easy to assume that no cap will get put into place, but no one knows how those negotiations are going to play out.
So, in the case of Tucker, if he and his agent are intelligent, they would take the longer contract with Toronto, which would assure he makes more money over the long run. He could in theory make $200+ million with the Mets or Dodgers over the next four years. However, if the MLB wins the right to put a salary cap into place, who knows how severe the cap will be, who knows how that will affect contract negotiations into the future (not just with Tucker, but with every top player), and whether Tucker will be able to negotiate an AAV anywhere close to $50+ million beyond those four years. Injuries also happen, and who knows what his value will be in 3-4 years.
In closing, again, if Tucker and his agent are smart, why take $200+ million when you can get $380-$450 million GUARANTEED with the Jays (or whatever it happens to be if it happens)? If he's only in it for top dollar, he could wind up screwing himself by taking a shorter contract with the Mets or Dodgers, and then wind up getting screwed by a potential salary cap situation that could hinder his ability to make more money going into the future than the Jays are currently offering.
Again, no one knows where Tucker is going to land, but the Jays still make more sense on a money/contract/stability standpoint. Even with a potential $200 million offer from the Mets or Dodgers. If he signs with the Jays, it'll be much lower than a $50 million AAV, but a much longer contract. Probably 8-10 years.
The thing I worry about more than anything is how long of a player strike is going to happen once the salary cap negotiations start. Because you just KNOW it's going to happen.
Yes, this is insane and I personally won't be upset if the Jays refuse to go all-in at that asking price. Tucker should be lucky to play half his games and raise a family here in Canada instead of the garbage USA. Screw him. Elbows up!
belanger is a better idea
Flippin Cohen, if you are high enough to spend that on him, go ahead.
He is not worth that.
Jay's already has a great lineup. Sure, would Bo or Tuck make it better, but man, at what cost.
Jays brass move on!!!
Unless Tucker is, in fact, Superman, there is no way you spend 50 million a season for him.
What would Barry bonds make this day and age ? 125 millions a year 😎 way too much money
GET BO!!! 4 years 200 Million is insane for Tucker.
probably leverage i will be waiting till he signs and im not going to pick a team that is all and still hearing reports that is all
I actually won't be upset if the Blue Jays don't get Tucker and instead sign Bichette. Tucker may be the better offensive player, but Bichette has proven that his chemistry with the team works and he showed up during the world series batting very well under pressure. He would be better off moving from shortstop to second in a switch with Giménez. I have a feeling Tucker will choose the Mets. At the end of the day it's all about the dolla dolla bill y'all.
It’s just all leverage
OK!! BLUE JAYS!! LETS SIGN KYLE!!!
Forget him. He is not even close to being worth that.
50 mil for a .266/22/75 guy? Go ahead 🤷♂️🤷♂️
The Phillies or somebody gets Bichette and the Mets get Tucker. Simple as that! I knew we would not get either! Every stinking year this happens!
As always we aren't getting Tucker or Bo. Now what?
The Mets will never win nothing. If he goes there he doesn’t care if he wins
if the Mets sign Tucker, Mets stuck w Tucker and Soto. I dont think the Mets that good
That's way wayyyy to much wtf.jay won't match that bullshit.jays will need to pay 300 million over 6 years then,this is blackmail fucking crooks
12 years what are you loony tunes
He's coming to the Jays! I just know he's going to!
I hope the mets get him
Move on and resign Bo Bichette.
Let him go to the Mets…
Go trade for another player.don't go on free agent go for a real deal player…👍💯
Lose Tucker you need to go get Bo bitchet