Getting EB back is the best outcome given that the HC is the OC (one of the best of all time) and has offensive control. EB brings the same traits that made him successful before: works his ass off and holds people accountable. This time he comes back with intimate knowledge of Ben Johnson’s system, which is as stylistically opposite of KC as just about anyone right now. You’re not going to get much more from a hire than that combination. He’s exactly what the team needs: a guy to coach everyone hard, a guy with new ideas and concepts from one of the best, and possibly the best RB coach in the league to groom Smith (and whoever else the team brings in). I’ve been on the record about wanting Mike McDaniel but that’s not realistic when your HC is Andy Reid. And for good reason. So get the guy back who knows the previous system and can bring fresh and new ideas (see what I did there) from a top Offense.

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  1. Makes me feel better! Didn’t realize he was in Chicago – but I literally ONLY follow the Chiefs

  2. I think accountability will be a key to having EB back. I remember seeing him light guys up on the broadcast. It can’t hurt the run game either.

  4. I don’t wanna hear any excuses if the offense doesn’t suddenly become 2022 again, since that’s the year yall hold on to. There was a wide gulf between bringing Nagy back, and bringing EB back.

  6. The run game argument is odd to me because when Bieniemy was in KC they didn’t have a very strong run game. Then Bieniemy goes to Chicago for one season with Ben Johnson, who also ran a very strong run game in Detroit as the Lion’s OC, and suddenly everyone thinks the run game of Ben Johnson is due to Bieniemy. That seems strange to attribute to EB.

  11. Yeah, I’m sure EB is going to bring in concepts from Ben Johnson and our offense is going to flourish again…

    Or is it entirely more likely that it continues to look like what it’s looked like the past 3 years under Andy, pulling teeth even though you have an all time great QB in his prime. People (including Andy) want to stick their heads in the sand and pretend that the only problem with the offense is the execution. Clean up the drops and penalties and we’ll be fine.

    Even though there’s no evidence that bringing in EB will fix our problems with penalties and drops, and the far bigger problem with the offense over the past few years is the outdated scheme. Andy won’t modernize the offense, we’re still going to struggle.

  12. Hiring McDaniels to be the OC with the promise of taking over as HC in 1-2 years would have been amazing. He had a solid offense and running game in Miami with noodle arm Tua. Forcing Andy to bring in outside influence to change and mold the offense would have been beneficial, but it was never going to happen sadly.

  13. I’d love to know what Mahomes really thinks about this move. Seemed like he and Kelce hated EB and were constantly close to throwing hands on the sidelines.

  15. Would’ve preferred to bring him back as rb coach but I don’t really care about the OC search as much as everyone else. I just want Jeremy Maclin to be our recievers coach. And and actual rb to be the rb coach.

  16. I have absolutely no idea how next season is going to turn out, but some of you are going to look really fucking stupid one way or the other with how confidently you think this is going to either be amazing or suck. How about instead of forming opinions without any results, we wait and see how it looks and then maybe we start dooming or celebrating?

  17. IMO I believe what EB brings Monday to Saturday is more important than what he brings on Sunday. He made it hard during the week so that Sunday was easy.

  18. Im sure the armchair GMs who have flooded this sub the last 24 hours will find some reason why they know better.

  19. Andy will 68 next season. My thing is, Andy has shown signs of stagnation and decline the past 3 years. And Andy has shown absolutely zero desire to discuss retirement. He’s actually said he isn’t even thinking about it.

    I think at age 68, it is fair to ask, hey Andy, how long approximately is thing going to go on for? Is he going to be 73 plus and still trying to keep going?

    At some point, it just gets kind of ridiculous. How old of a coach do we want?

  20. Listen, I’m sure all these rando doom sayers on Reddit know better than whoever this Mitch guy is.

  21. If we draft Jeremiah love and let eb coach him and we start running the ball more that could very much open the passing game.

  26. Maybe I was watching a different team or I’m just ignorant, but I didn’t see an offensive that had the defensive on their heels. I saw an offense that was doing exactly what the opposing defenses planned and prepared for.

  27. All I see is cope. This is a move designed not to ripple Reid’s power at all. Reid is still very much in charge. Everyone in the building except for Clark Hunt answers to him. EB is a yes man. You cannot tell me that Eric Bieniemy was the #1 OC candidate in all of football. You just can’t. Dude was barely in the league after flaming out multiple places over the last few years.

    Does anyone care? No. But I’m not impressed by this hire.

  28. Love seeing this from a guy that actually knows how the dynamic between Andy and his OC actually works.

    Penalties, penalties, penalties, and a few mistakes tossed in. That would be my summary on the first 2 thirds of this season. The last third, well, OT’s are important.

    The discipline of this team, as a whole, has declined each year since Bienemy left. It’s honestly painful to watch at times, and that’s not even discussing the stagnation of the offensive game plans. Every kickoff or punt return. Seemingly every offensive drive, 1st and 15 or 1st and 20 at least once. And starting from the 5 yd line.

    I was definitely hoping for someone fresh. But I’ll settle for electing to no longer shoot our own foot. Or at least that’s what I’ll hope for.

  29. Part of the issue here is that the OC is not just 2nd to Andy, he’s actually 3rd to Andy *and* Patrick.

    Great QBs in their 30s tend to become shadow offensive coordinators. Once they have the ability to do some of that work, they tend to demand it. And Patrick made his desires very clear when he weighed in on the ongoing hiring search.

    So who are you going to find that can deal with both Andy and Patrick looking over his shoulder, but also has the credibility and rapport to push back against those two guys? Can you even name two people in the whole world that check both those boxes? Because I can only think of one.

  33. Mitchell Schwartz is a gem to have. With his actual inside knowledge of this team and the nfl it gives such a different perspective than all of us fans bickering at eachother have. He can speak actual facts. So this post actually gives me some hope for EB!

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