Another young player about to be traded. This teams development of talent is pitiful.
Schneider is a bottom paid defenseman at best. Honestly with his lack of offense he may not even be a starter on some teams.
I love gavrikov
There’s no perception, gavrikov is good, Schneider is bad. Trade Schneider yesterday!
So we should trade a young, 3rd pair defenseman who was shifted to play on the top line while being paired with a totally new player to the team? What did everyone expect, do him to seamlessly replace Fox and start scoring at will?
Schneids is a good 3rd line D-man. He’s *not* a top line D-man. He’s also been asked to pair up with a never-ending rotation of AHLers on the 3rd line…
The tweet is a meaningless stat line. One of the best pairs in the league is more effective than our 2D paired with a guy who’s a 4D on his best day and generally a 5/6- no shit.
Schneider is not the player they envisioned that they were drafting. Remember the “baby Trouba” moniker? His lack of physicality over the past 2 seasons were blamed on his lingering shoulder issues. Has that changed this season now that he’s healthy?
If all he is or will be is a 4th or 5th best D man on the team, the Rangers don’t need to be paying $4-5mil for him.
Defense gets worse when top 3 defenseman is out of the lineup. Shocking.
If Schneider’s value is high and we replace him with another prospect that fills a need, then fine, move him. But if this is another trade for a bottom pair vet like Soucy, Vaaks, or even Borgen I would not be happy.
Dude schnieder is a perfectly fine 3rd line maybe even 2nd line D.
His stats aren’t even that bad, but the guy is getting big minutes against other teams top lines now that Fox is gone. People expect him to essentially replace Fox 1 to 1 while also competing against other teams number 1 dudes.
If you scale back his role and responsibilities, I bet he will likely be that safe floor defenseman everyone wants, and the whole reason his value is “perceived” as high. If he gets traded, his scope will be dialed back to what he’s meant to do, and he will likely be a solid NHl d man somewhere else. Why trade him unless you get atleast the same level D from somewhere else.
Perceived value is no longer high…
Schneider (24) is a solid bottom pair defenseman. There is no doubt he belongs in the NHL unlike Robertson (24) or Morrow (23). They should be looking to trade one of those two for their *potential* instead of a player who has been in the league for 5 years.
Schneider has never really been all that good. Wouldn’t be sad to see him go. Bottom pairing D man, nothing more.
Would I like him to be better yes, am I willing to give up on him? No, I’m not, he has all the tools, put him on a better team and he would do quite well IMO.
I personally hold the belief that Schneider is a sexy little guy and would hate to see him go
The tweet is out of context with Shesty out too. The GA in their minutes aren’t comparable because there are more variables than just 23 v 4.
I think there’s an argument that says 4 is more valuable than Rangers fans think.
I don’t think Schneider is a huge issue. He’s best as a 4/5 defenseman and is clearly being exposed this year being forced into tougher min.
If teams see him as a player with potential to be logging 20+ min and are willing to trade assets as if he’s such, then we should do it because the value coming back should be higher than the value he’s currently offering our lineup.
My thoughts are if Sullivan can’t get more out him, he might be capped, so it’s an interesting young player to shop. Good GMs do this.
Best Drury can do is trade Fox while his perceived and actual value remains high
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Another young player about to be traded. This teams development of talent is pitiful.
Schneider is a bottom paid defenseman at best. Honestly with his lack of offense he may not even be a starter on some teams.
I love gavrikov
There’s no perception, gavrikov is good, Schneider is bad. Trade Schneider yesterday!
So we should trade a young, 3rd pair defenseman who was shifted to play on the top line while being paired with a totally new player to the team? What did everyone expect, do him to seamlessly replace Fox and start scoring at will?
Schneids is a good 3rd line D-man. He’s *not* a top line D-man. He’s also been asked to pair up with a never-ending rotation of AHLers on the 3rd line…
The tweet is a meaningless stat line. One of the best pairs in the league is more effective than our 2D paired with a guy who’s a 4D on his best day and generally a 5/6- no shit.
Schneider is not the player they envisioned that they were drafting. Remember the “baby Trouba” moniker? His lack of physicality over the past 2 seasons were blamed on his lingering shoulder issues. Has that changed this season now that he’s healthy?
If all he is or will be is a 4th or 5th best D man on the team, the Rangers don’t need to be paying $4-5mil for him.
Defense gets worse when top 3 defenseman is out of the lineup. Shocking.
If Schneider’s value is high and we replace him with another prospect that fills a need, then fine, move him. But if this is another trade for a bottom pair vet like Soucy, Vaaks, or even Borgen I would not be happy.
Dude schnieder is a perfectly fine 3rd line maybe even 2nd line D.
His stats aren’t even that bad, but the guy is getting big minutes against other teams top lines now that Fox is gone. People expect him to essentially replace Fox 1 to 1 while also competing against other teams number 1 dudes.
If you scale back his role and responsibilities, I bet he will likely be that safe floor defenseman everyone wants, and the whole reason his value is “perceived” as high. If he gets traded, his scope will be dialed back to what he’s meant to do, and he will likely be a solid NHl d man somewhere else. Why trade him unless you get atleast the same level D from somewhere else.
Perceived value is no longer high…
Schneider (24) is a solid bottom pair defenseman. There is no doubt he belongs in the NHL unlike Robertson (24) or Morrow (23). They should be looking to trade one of those two for their *potential* instead of a player who has been in the league for 5 years.
Schneider has never really been all that good. Wouldn’t be sad to see him go. Bottom pairing D man, nothing more.
Would I like him to be better yes, am I willing to give up on him? No, I’m not, he has all the tools, put him on a better team and he would do quite well IMO.
I personally hold the belief that Schneider is a sexy little guy and would hate to see him go
The tweet is out of context with Shesty out too. The GA in their minutes aren’t comparable because there are more variables than just 23 v 4.
I think there’s an argument that says 4 is more valuable than Rangers fans think.
I don’t think Schneider is a huge issue. He’s best as a 4/5 defenseman and is clearly being exposed this year being forced into tougher min.
If teams see him as a player with potential to be logging 20+ min and are willing to trade assets as if he’s such, then we should do it because the value coming back should be higher than the value he’s currently offering our lineup.
My thoughts are if Sullivan can’t get more out him, he might be capped, so it’s an interesting young player to shop. Good GMs do this.
Best Drury can do is trade Fox while his perceived and actual value remains high
Is Fox ever on the ice with Schneider?